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Well, just about one month into the first cycle and have gained nearly 20 lbs (at 5'10" - started 204.6/weighed 223.9 yesterday) :D. Cycle consists of 30mg dbol (ed) wks 1-4, 600mg Test enanthate wks 1-8, and 150mg Test Prop (eod) wks 9-10, with .5ml of liq. letro (ed).

Anyway, it's going good and was wondering about utilizing dbol (10mg ed) at the end, after last shot of prop, to help "maintain gains." I saw that in the "Saving Gains" thread in the articles section and was wondering how (if at all) it affects the use of clomid? Or instead, just finish out the dbol (30mg ed) for an extra week (meaning using 30mg ed wks 1-5)? :confused: Any advice? :eek:

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Just listen to your back...if you start to tighten up, that is when I reduce the dose or if I have been using for 4 weeks then I stop. But if you like, you can run it 6 weeks (max).

As far as bridging goes, I would still take the three weeks of Clomid therapy.
 

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I use 10mg d-bol - morning only, first thing upon waking during my cruise. This is also taken with post-cycle clomid. Taken at this time, it's purported to not affect your HPTA.

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Use anavar, halo, winny or IP masterone instead. Dbol would work, but the resulting convert to estro (however small) does not good for the HPTA.
 

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Thanks for the input, bros! Stopping the dbol today as this made it day 30 and I do need to give my lower back a rest as the cramps blow. For the first 10 days, I was like why is everyone talking about dbol cramps, etc, as I didn't have any...then, all of a sudden during squats they came. Man, does that suck! But, I'll definitely take the added weight.

Again, thanks for the advice. As usual, this board (and the members) has played a significant role in my gains/improvements.

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hey, Im on week 4 of Dbol at 30mg daily, and my back is killing me. I have never heard of dbol being the cause, I just figured I did something to myself at work. What exactly causes this, and is it bad for me to keep using it? If I can deal with the cramping, will I be alright?
 

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I think that if you can live with it you're OK. Try taking 2g magnesium and 8g Taurine divided up throughout the day.

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Agreed with excel.

I'd even go higher with the taurine as its a safe amino.

Perhaps some PC (potassium citrate) would keep lactic acid in check and cramping to a minimum.
 

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Can I pick up Taurine at Vitamin Shoppe? I hate that place, but I would buy it there just to have some right away until I can order more through the mail. The pain isn UNBEARABLE, and I must say I do like the gains
 

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Yes and it comes with little b6 with it so the VS brand is cool until you get the plain poweder kilo hookup for 18bucks.

Their pills come 500mg taur/10mg b6
 

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