What does everyone like better igf-1 DES or igf-1 LR3

[bigfish303]

How is everyone pinning DES? If you go IM, do you use a long insulin needle or are you using like a 27gauge 1 inch needle? I assuming it's an insulin needle since you are measuring it out in IUs and mcg.

 

[Stone123]

How is everyone pinning DES? If you go IM, do you use a long insulin needle or are you using like a 27gauge 1 inch needle? I assuming it's an insulin needle since you are measuring it out in IUs and mcg.

just use insulin 29gauge 1/2 cc

 

[sammy555]

I cant vote as ive never tried lr3 but des is awesome

 

[kdtl61]

Ran des at 100mcg/day im for 4 weeks. Noticed next to nothing. I know everyone swears by all these great pumps etc. Not on my test subject

Going to try Lr3 next run

 

[soul_fly]

I tried DES from two "hyped" providers to see what the fuss was about and really didn't see much. I then spent the extra money and purchased 2mg of DES from SRC and that's when I realized what I was supposed to experience. SRC has my biz for sure

 

[kdtl61]

I tried DES from two "hyped" providers to see what the fuss was about and really didn't see much. I then spent the extra money and purchased 2mg of DES from SRC and that's when I realized what I was supposed to experience. SRC has my biz for sure

Interresting. Funny how that is for sure. Ill keep testing others too.

 

[pumpkinhead]

des for sure it is the greatest go to precision peptieds also they are cheap and have good stuff

not a fan. my rats did not feel anything from over 600mcg of their clen... was probably so underdosed was just water. Contacted them trying to fix, NO REPLY. I am sure some of you will say, "ahh this guy only has x post" he doesn't know what he is talking about, thats because I change names every so often. been around since the underground was a board on this thing called the "internet" LOL

 

[discohornet]

Ran des at 100mcg/day im for 4 weeks. Noticed next to nothing. I know everyone swears by all these great pumps etc. Not on my test subject

Going to try Lr3 next run

I am seeing people recommending 400mcg a day. It's kinda getting outrageous.

I tried it, experienced a really nice pump, but I also consumed a lot of carbs before hand and that just seems to happen regardless.

I do know that anything less than that and I haven't felt much of anyhting.

I may have to try a few more sources, but I've tried quite a few at this point to no avail. Really had high hopes for it.

 

[kdtl61]

Yeah, I hear you. Looks like we could have a comp on seeing how many different vendors we can use with the same results. Have a good day.

I am seeing people recommending 400mcg a day. It's kinda getting outrageous.

I tried it, experienced a really nice pump, but I also consumed a lot of carbs before hand and that just seems to happen regardless.

I do know that anything less than that and I haven't felt much of anyhting.

I may have to try a few more sources, but I've tried quite a few at this point to no avail. Really had high hopes for it.

 

[osiris]

I am seeing people recommending 400mcg a day. It's kinda getting outrageous.

I tried it, experienced a really nice pump, but I also consumed a lot of carbs before hand and that just seems to happen regardless.

I do know that anything less than that and I haven't felt much of anyhting.

I may have to try a few more sources, but I've tried quite a few at this point to no avail. Really had high hopes for it.

Disco, its all relative to lean muscle mass. I have also found that with the larger muscle groups, you need to inject in more spots to get the ful effect. I mean putting ten iu in your quad( i have fairly big legs) isnt going to do a helluva lot BUT if i dilute that a bit and do 3 spots per quad, the effect at the same doseage is startling=-)

Now as to the mega doseages, i am 5'6" and i vascillate between 238 and 242 depending on how many shits i have taken that day. While not the biggest guy on the board, i have what i consider appreciable muscle mass. It takes a higher doseage for me to feel it. Now i start every blast at 100mcg and i run that until i do not feel it anymore. At that point i make a small increase and go to 150mcg. And then bam, it works great again. Regardless of the pumps, i still get the fat loss.

400mcg is actually pretty magical in my opinion. it does some wonderful things to your body. But then again, thats at the end of a 12 week blast of des. I fight tooth and nail to keep my hormones low but i do tend to push the envelope with peptides. Its all about picking your poison. I will say though that at 400mcg of des my bloodwork comes back perfect since i can make great gains on 600 test and 300 deca=-)

 

[Mike Arnold]

I didnt get much strength but then again i never do=-) I did make some great gains on it and i can tell that it works wonders for bodyfat. I went from about 15% down to 10% without really changing much.

I am a fan for life of DES.

I can vouch for this. DES has visibly reduced my BF every time I've use it. It doesn't take me more than few weeks to see visual changes in BF%, with zero change in diet.

 

[Mike Arnold]

Bros,

Listen to this webcast, very interesting....

**broken link removed**

I held off on trying PEG MGF for a long time, but now having used it...I really like it. On top of that, it's cheap. Personally, I will always combine it with IGF-1 from this point forward.

 

[rock75]

I can vouch for this. DES has visibly reduced my BF every time I've use it. It doesn't take me more than few weeks to see visual changes in BF%, with zero change in diet.

Mike, are you gonna take b4 pics for your next DES run??

 

[Mike Arnold]

Mike, are you gonna take b4 pics for your next DES run??

Already on again...been for about 20 days now. With as much DES as I have coming to me, it looks like I'll be on for the next 5-6 months straight...LOL.

 

[osiris]

I can vouch for this. DES has visibly reduced my BF every time I've use it. It doesn't take me more than few weeks to see visual changes in BF%, with zero change in diet.

You know mike, I love all peptides but honestly des and lr3 are my favorite. The gains are close to what we would get from a low dose hormone regimen.

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[Mike Arnold]

You know mike, I love all peptides but honestly des and lr3 are my favorite. The gains are close to what we would get from a low dose hormone regimen.

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I agree. Ya' know, being a rep for GenX allows me to use basically whatever I want, so I going to be throwing pretty much every IGF peptide into the mix in the coming weeks (which I have never done before). Not only that, but I am planning on making a semi-serious run with AAS over the next several months, as well.

It's been a few years since I have even attempted to put any type of serious effort into my training, diet, or supplementation. I will likely be focusing on strength over size (which has always been easier for me, anyway), but size will still be a secondary and important focus for me.

Over the last several years, I have rarely gone above 300 mg/week of Test....with an oral thrown in there for 2-3 weeks every now and then...and an occasional run with Tren at about 200 mg/week. That has pretty much been the extent of my AAS use for the last few years.

So, the following is my prospective plan. Regarding diet, I am NOT going to be eating what I would typically recommend...fuck that! If I want to eat anthing, I will eat it, but I will still be bumping my cals....taking my protein from its current 100-125 grams a day (LOL) to at least 200 grams (hey, it's good enough)....and attempting to train each bodypart at least once per week, instead of every 12-14 days like it's been for the last 2 years. I may even increase my meal schedule from its typical 2-3 meals per day to 4 meals daily.

Anyway, I won't be using anything dramatic, just sticking to one of the classic cycles. Since obtaining peps is a benefit of working for GenX, I might as well throw a bunch of them into the mix:

AAS
Test @ 800 mg/week.
Deca @ 600 mg/week.
Dianabol @ 40-50 mg/day.

Ancillaries
Aromasin @ 25 mg/day.
Carbergoline @ .5 mg EOD.

Peptides
DES @ 120 mcg/day.
IGF-1 LR3 @ 50 mcg/day.
IGF-2 Lr3 @ 50 mcg/day.
PEG MGF @ 200 mg/ 2X week.
*** All peps going into my biceps

Not sure what I am doing for GH/GH peps yet. I am tired of being a lazy slob...tired of being 15-16% BF, weighing 250 lbs...not even being able to bench 500 lbs anymore....tired of it.

 

[rock75]

Already on again...been for about 20 days now. With as much DES as I have coming to me, it looks like I'll be on for the next 5-6 months straight...LOL.

I agree. Ya' know, being a rep for GenX allows me to use basically whatever I want, so I going to be throwing pretty much every IGF peptide into the mix in the coming weeks (which I have never done before). Not only that, but I am planning on making a semi-serious run with AAS over the next several months, as well.

It's been a few years since I have even attempted to put any type of serious effort into my training, diet, or supplementation. I will likely be focusing on strength over size (which has always been easier for me, anyway), but size will still be a secondary and important focus for me.

Over the last several years, I have rarely gone above 300 mg/week of Test....with an oral thrown in there for 2-3 weeks every now and then...and an occasional run with Tren at about 200 mg/week. That has pretty much been the extent of my AAS use for the last few years.

So, the following is my prospective plan. Regarding diet, I am NOT going to be eating what I would typically recommend...fuck that! If I want to eat anthing, I will eat it, but I will still be bumping my cals....taking my protein from its current 100-125 grams a day (LOL) to at least 200 grams (hey, it's good enough)....and attempting to train each bodypart at least once per week, instead of every 12-14 days like it's been for the last 2 years. I may even increase my meal schedule from its typical 2-3 meals per day to 4 meals daily.

Anyway, I won't be using anything dramatic, just sticking to one of the classic cycles. Since obtaining peps is a benefit of working for GenX, I might as well throw a bunch of them into the mix:

AAS
Test @ 800 mg/week.
Deca @ 600 mg/week.
Dianabol @ 40-50 mg/day.

Ancillaries
Aromasin @ 25 mg/day.
Carbergoline @ .5 mg EOD.

Peptides
DES @ 120 mcg/day.
IGF-1 LR3 @ 50 mcg/day.
IGF-2 Lr3 @ 50 mcg/day.
PEG MGF @ 200 mg/ 2X week.
*** All peps going into my biceps

Not sure what I am doing for GH/GH peps yet. I am tired of being a lazy slob...tired of being 15-16% BF, weighing 250 lbs...not even being able to bench 500 lbs anymore....tired of it.

I guess we'll just have to take your word over the internets then...

 

[Mike Arnold]

I guess we'll just have to take your word over the internets then...

I didn't realize someone needed to furnish proof that they were using AAS or peptides , but since you don't seem to be aware, it is actually pretty common for BB'rs/strength athletes to use these things called steroids...and sometimes even peptides.

However, I can assure you that this is my plan at this point. Maybe it will change before I start...maybe it won't, but right now I am reasonably sure this is what I'll be doing. Would seeing a picture of the vials help you "take my word for it"?

 

[osiris]

I didn't realize someone needed to furnish proof that they were using AAS or peptides , but since you don't seem to be aware, it is actually pretty common for BB'rs/strength athletes to use these things called steroids...and sometimes even peptides.

However, I can assure you that this is my plan at this point. Maybe it will change before I start...maybe it won't, but right now I am reasonably sure this is what I'll be doing. Would seeing a picture of the vials help you "take my word for it"?

I NEED you to take a picture of you injectinf a steroid into your ass while wearing a pink tutu(?) And standing on one leg or I call BULLSHIT

Truthfully I just want to see you in a tutu, not even going to lie.

And yes, being sponsored by ergopep is very nice. I get all the peptides I want to try and it allows me a lot of latitude in my research. I will be gettong a flaming hear tattoo on my hip with phil hernon written inside of it soon....lol

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[Mike Arnold]

I NEED you to take a picture of you injectinf a steroid into your ass while wearing a pink tutu(?) And standing on one leg or I call BULLSHIT

Truthfully I just want to see you in a tutu, not even going to lie.

And yes, being sponsored by ergopep is very nice. I get all the peptides I want to try and it allows me a lot of latitude in my research. I will be gettong a flaming hear tattoo on my hip with phil hernon written inside of it soon....lol

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Yeah...that's pretty sweet that your sponsored by Ergo now; makes a big difference when a peptide company is in your corner.

However, I can't help you with the tutu, as it is reserved for Rock75. Now that he is dying to see pics of my vials (never had that request before...LOL), I just might have to appease him, instead.