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WILL GEAR BECOME EXTINCT ?

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will it looks like ORD has been worse then was thought our government has much longer arms then i realized. first mexico now looks like they have shut down china as will. our supplement world is getting very small. and i know that some of our sponsors are having some restocking issues things don't look good. stock up guys.
 
it wont become extinct as long as theres a demand for it but there will be more instances of fakes and an increase in prices/waiting times.

see how things develop in China AFTER the olympics :)
 
no

simply because the human grade stuff is used by doctors etc. Deca is used to treat breastcancer etc etc So manufacturers will keep producing.
As long is there is a manufacturer there will be a supply.
 
There will never be a problem getting gear in our lifetime if ever. It's called supply and demand.
 
There will never be a problem getting gear in our lifetime if ever. It's called supply and demand.
I agree.....

I think we are all aware that as long as there is the great demand for it from sports there will be a supply. After this past wave of busts, in x number of months things will be back just like they were before......just the way it works.....
 
will see guys asiagolds post on asiagears thread painted a pretty grim picture for China and most of the raw powders for everyone is made their so if that drys up things could get though.
 
Someone usually fills void. Some day perhaps they will be again available via doctor. It makes no sense that you can have a doctor risk your life, have you sign a consent form, and go under the knife and insert, for example, pec implants, but you cannot take something like Oxandrin or Anadrol 50 or Serostim, which are the reason a guy like Magic Johnson 15 years after going public does not look like a guy ravaged by hiv. My point is that if the medical profession uses steroids to improve peoples' health and the medical profession (cosmetic surgeons) can cut you up for cosmetic reasons, something has got to give, perhaps reason and logic will win out. And when you have credible people like an attorney as smart as Rick Collins, things begin to change, albeit slowly. Shows like Bryan Gumball on HBO doing shows that do not sensationalize the health risks.

If some athletes would just come clean and say "yeah, I took steroids but only because every one else at my level takes them to stay competitive," and the sports organizations would say "we're going to have a league open to only clean athletes (those who want to be clean and want proof that their competitors are clean), and charge admission to the public BUT we're also going to have one league open only to athletes who admit to taking steroids and/or other performance enhancers (assuming they could do so without breaking the law) -- i.e., unless you admit to using steroids etc., you cannot compete -- and charge admission to the public" THEN see who the public pays admission to go see. Then there is only 2 leagues for the same sports. One is clean and the other is not.

In the meantime, Asians,East Europeans, whomever and wherever, will fill the void -- like someone said, supply and demand. Unless demand gets so great, like that of booze during prohibition, that eventually something has got to give, like congress.

Stallone's admission of using hGH and testosterone I suspect has a lot of BB's (ha ha, baby boomers, not bodybuilders) taking notice and thinking in their heads, "hmmmm..."

And eventually Rambo will come out on video or PPV so that most will see it and Rocky Balboa (awesome flick) and start to say, "damn he looks good for age 63" [or whatever age he is now, 64? 65?].

Until they are legal, if ever, we wont see the kind of hayday we saw prior to ORD (prior to Mex Vet shutdown). But they wont go extinct, not while ppl like you and people like me are around. But I will continue to train natural in the meantime. :rolleyes:

Some day Arnold might be president!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)
:) :) :)
 
Only time will tell. I do become less and less optimistic as the busts mount.
If one does not have an non-online 'friend' (like myself) that day may come sooner then later.
 
They are prescribed for cosmetic reasons! If you are a female who wants to become a male than you are prescribed testosterone. They must be on Testosterone for a period of 1 year before they can undergo a sex change. LOL.
 
What I've been wondering is, how hard is it to make testosterone [E/prop/whatever] powder? This is something that I've never seen discussed on the boards.

Small labs have been able to create PH's right? so why not testosterone etc? the whole world of UG steroids seems to rely on China. Why? Of course nobody here intends to make steroids, we're just talkin'.
 
What I've been wondering is, how hard is it to make testosterone [E/prop/whatever] powder? This is something that I've never seen discussed on the boards.

Small labs have been able to create PH's right? so why not testosterone etc? the whole world of UG steroids seems to rely on China. Why? Of course nobody here intends to make steroids, we're just talkin'.

http://portal.acs.org/portal/acs/co...d=CTP_004452&use_sec=true&sec_url_var=region1
Rosenkranz extended the chemistry of diosgenin to the production of testosterone and other steroid hormones (also done by Marker). More importantly, Rosenkranz built a powerful research program at Syntex. In part, this was done by playing a major role in the creation of the "Instituto de Química," where a collaborative organic chemistry research degree was established. He also recruited other Ph.D. chemists for Syntex, including Carl Djerassi and Alejandro Zaffaroni.
 
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after reading some of today's posts i think some of you guys are a little optimistic. I guess gear is a bigger threat then the record amount of heroin coming out of afghanistan.
 
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http://portal.acs.org/portal/acs/co...d=CTP_004452&use_sec=true&sec_url_var=region1
Rosenkranz extended the chemistry of diosgenin to the production of testosterone and other steroid hormones (also done by Marker). More importantly, Rosenkranz built a powerful research program at Syntex. In part, this was done by playing a major role in the creation of the "Instituto de Química," where a collaborative organic chemistry research degree was established. He also recruited other Ph.D. chemists for Syntex, including Carl Djerassi and Alejandro Zaffaroni.
very interesting link, thanks
 
I can't imagine. Chemistry is always progressing. There will always be someone creating the next generation of products.
 

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