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Worst PIP ever 7 days

MeImmortal1

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Good morning, I have utilized this board for years, it has always helped me when researching issues and it's one of the best, just a great source of information, thank you. Well here it goes, it's rare I ever post on any boards, I use this name but if you look on most of the major hoards I've been a member for years but never made a single post, I just poke around reading all the posts learning what I can. I have been using gear for over 20 years, I used to brew my own fina back in the day, before the ugl's came and made life so much easier, I have seen a lot, so many changes, but really no time for stories. Here is my issue which I am hoping to get a lot of encouraging input. High 500 mg/ml gear (test deca tren, u kno the mix, *have heard high eo content*) was on 4th week and did 2ml to my non virgin muscle pin cushion left quad. Had been getting tolerable pip from the start. But then last Wednesday, it was like a normal jab, nothing felt weird, by Friday was getting slight pip. Saturday I was hobbling. Sunday swelling in the knee and leg, still crippled. No redness no hot to the touch just swelling and tightness. Yesterday was no different, I am out of the gym now I can hardly bend my knee, and sitting or getting in and out of a car is excruciating. Went to emergency room yesterday (Tuesday), told doc I took a b12 injection to my quad 6 days ago, gave me a weird look, but after a full examination he said it wasn't an infection and gave me 600mg ibuprofen and a muscle relaxant called zanaflex... he said it' possibly just muscle spasms, to rest and heat on and off and if it's still bothersome in a week come back. Guys, I'm dying, I have never in my 20+ year history of using ever had this intense pip at 7 days, can' bend my knee more than a little so sitting on a chair is difficult and painful, and for me to be out of the gym all week you know it's bad because I just don't miss, I'm there on Xmas on hurricanes, I was even there the day my dad passed away. I've also missed work, basically bed ridden, praying for a miracle to get better soon. Looking for any advice or encourageent, again no fever, the general area where I pinned is slightly sore all around that area but the pain is involved in moving my leg and bending and walking, just sharp pains and the swelling is very evident down to the knee. I was hoping the doc would thrown me on some cephalexen to fight infections and prednisone for swelling but healthcare is insane, you are at their mercy. So I am gonna gonna give it more time, nothing else I can do but lie awake here suffering. Has anyone every heard of anything like this before? This has got me all depressed, I just want to get strong and be my old self, this fall cycle had me so pumped. I wanna see a light at the end of the tunnel but after 7 days now I am worse than ever, worse than 2 days after. Just the leg, I feel fine, no fever, good appetite, the leg just looks puffy but not red or bad, just not my typical quad. Guys, tell me I'm gonna be okay please, I need someencouragement ☺
 

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20 years worth of expierence I’m sure you could provide a lot of good info around here, just like you’re looking for now....


I’ve done some really bad prop with the pip as you’re describing exactly, was this a new vial or stuff you’ve used before from the same vial?
 

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I had a similar thing and it was infected badly. The doctor can't tell by examining it (looking at it). When I finally walked into the emergency room, they did an MRI to see the infection.

Confirmed that it was infected, got prescribed antibiotics and a followup visit with a specialist. Because I took so long to get to emergency (over a week) the antibiotics did nothing. Had to have surgery to drain it.

They drained over 500ml from my quad (just a bit more than a tall boy, 16oz) This is why I always chuckle when people think they can drain a serious infection with a 3ml syringe... (oh and I tried it too before going to the doctor, drained about 5ml of puss and thought I got it all lol).

Mine wasn't hot to touch, nor red, and I didn't have a fever. Just the leg was swelling, and with time it was difficult to even bend/straighten out the leg. The main thing I remember is that it felt itchy, but from the inside. Tough to explain, like a burning but itching feeling, but on the inside of the muscle where I couldn't scratch it.

Have a nice 10" scar down the side of my leg now. Luckily, there was not any cutting out involved (and stuffing), just slicing the muscle open. My only tip for anyone reading this, is if you think it's infected, go to the hospital. You catch it fast enough you can fight it with antibiotics, but you wait too long and draining is the only option. Also, I should have know something was wrong, because I noticed every time I injected the quad, I would instantly get tren cough. I think it was a way my body telling me to stop injecting there.


TLDR, go back to the hospital and ask for MRI. Oh and in future posts, try to use some paragraphs, that was a difficult read :)
 

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You'll be fine most likely.

Learn from this and don't fuckin buy high concentrated gear. And don't use that blend.

There's been a plethora of threads on here with guys getting abcesses, crippling pips and infections from using those insanely high dosed blends.

Source doesn't matter, brand doesn't matter, just don't fucking do it again.

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Good morning, I have utilized this board for years, it has always helped me when researching issues and it's one of the best, just a great source of information, thank you. Well here it goes, it's rare I ever post on any boards, I use this name but if you look on most of the major hoards I've been a member for years but never made a single post, I just poke around reading all the posts learning what I can. I have been using gear for over 20 years, I used to brew my own fina back in the day, before the ugl's came and made life so much easier, I have seen a lot, so many changes, but really no time for stories. Here is my issue which I am hoping to get a lot of encouraging input. High 500 mg/ml gear (test deca tren, u kno the mix, *have heard high eo content*) was on 4th week and did 2ml to my non virgin muscle pin cushion left quad. Had been getting tolerable pip from the start. But then last Wednesday, it was like a normal jab, nothing felt weird, by Friday was getting slight pip. Saturday I was hobbling. Sunday swelling in the knee and leg, still crippled. No redness no hot to the touch just swelling and tightness. Yesterday was no different, I am out of the gym now I can hardly bend my knee, and sitting or getting in and out of a car is excruciating. Went to emergency room yesterday (Tuesday), told doc I took a b12 injection to my quad 6 days ago, gave me a weird look, but after a full examination he said it wasn't an infection and gave me 600mg ibuprofen and a muscle relaxant called zanaflex... he said it' possibly just muscle spasms, to rest and heat on and off and if it's still bothersome in a week come back. Guys, I'm dying, I have never in my 20+ year history of using ever had this intense pip at 7 days, can' bend my knee more than a little so sitting on a chair is difficult and painful, and for me to be out of the gym all week you know it's bad because I just don't miss, I'm there on Xmas on hurricanes, I was even there the day my dad passed away. I've also missed work, basically bed ridden, praying for a miracle to get better soon. Looking for any advice or encourageent, again no fever, the general area where I pinned is slightly sore all around that area but the pain is involved in moving my leg and bending and walking, just sharp pains and the swelling is very evident down to the knee. I was hoping the doc would thrown me on some cephalexen to fight infections and prednisone for swelling but healthcare is insane, you are at their mercy. So I am gonna gonna give it more time, nothing else I can do but lie awake here suffering. Has anyone every heard of anything like this before? This has got me all depressed, I just want to get strong and be my old self, this fall cycle had me so pumped. I wanna see a light at the end of the tunnel but after 7 days now I am worse than ever, worse than 2 days after. Just the leg, I feel fine, no fever, good appetite, the leg just looks puffy but not red or bad, just not my typical quad. Guys, tell me I'm gonna be okay please, I need someencouragement ☺




Im glad you have your priorities in order.
 

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Good morning, I have utilized this board for years, it has always helped me when researching issues and it's one of the best, just a great source of information, thank you. Well here it goes, it's rare I ever post on any boards, I use this name but if you look on most of the major hoards I've been a member for years but never made a single post, I just poke around reading all the posts learning what I can. I have been using gear for over 20 years, I used to brew my own fina back in the day, before the ugl's came and made life so much easier, I have seen a lot, so many changes, but really no time for stories. Here is my issue which I am hoping to get a lot of encouraging input. High 500 mg/ml gear (test deca tren, u kno the mix, *have heard high eo content*) was on 4th week and did 2ml to my non virgin muscle pin cushion left quad. Had been getting tolerable pip from the start. But then last Wednesday, it was like a normal jab, nothing felt weird, by Friday was getting slight pip. Saturday I was hobbling. Sunday swelling in the knee and leg, still crippled. No redness no hot to the touch just swelling and tightness. Yesterday was no different, I am out of the gym now I can hardly bend my knee, and sitting or getting in and out of a car is excruciating. Went to emergency room yesterday (Tuesday), told doc I took a b12 injection to my quad 6 days ago, gave me a weird look, but after a full examination he said it wasn't an infection and gave me 600mg ibuprofen and a muscle relaxant called zanaflex... he said it' possibly just muscle spasms, to rest and heat on and off and if it's still bothersome in a week come back. Guys, I'm dying, I have never in my 20+ year history of using ever had this intense pip at 7 days, can' bend my knee more than a little so sitting on a chair is difficult and painful, and for me to be out of the gym all week you know it's bad because I just don't miss, I'm there on Xmas on hurricanes, I was even there the day my dad passed away. I've also missed work, basically bed ridden, praying for a miracle to get better soon. Looking for any advice or encourageent, again no fever, the general area where I pinned is slightly sore all around that area but the pain is involved in moving my leg and bending and walking, just sharp pains and the swelling is very evident down to the knee. I was hoping the doc would thrown me on some cephalexen to fight infections and prednisone for swelling but healthcare is insane, you are at their mercy. So I am gonna gonna give it more time, nothing else I can do but lie awake here suffering. Has anyone every heard of anything like this before? This has got me all depressed, I just want to get strong and be my old self, this fall cycle had me so pumped. I wanna see a light at the end of the tunnel but after 7 days now I am worse than ever, worse than 2 days after. Just the leg, I feel fine, no fever, good appetite, the leg just looks puffy but not red or bad, just not my typical quad. Guys, tell me I'm gonna be okay please, I need someencouragement ☺

Welcome to PM.

Most of us can't read walls of text like this. Please use paragraphs next time. Thank you.
 

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Someone that's been using gear for 20 years and reading the forums, you should know better than to mess with the high mg/ml gear. Many of us have shared horror stories about it!

It could be cellulitis and cephalexin (Keflex) would be a great help...go see the doctor again.
 

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Good morning, I have utilized this board for years, it has always helped me when researching issues and it's one of the best, just a great source of information, thank you. Well here it goes, it's rare I ever post on any boards, I use this name but if you look on most of the major hoards I've been a member for years but never made a single post, I just poke around reading all the posts learning what I can. I have been using gear for over 20 years, I used to brew my own fina back in the day, before the ugl's came and made life so much easier, I have seen a lot, so many changes, but really no time for stories. Here is my issue which I am hoping to get a lot of encouraging input. High 500 mg/ml gear (test deca tren, u kno the mix, *have heard high eo content*) was on 4th week and did 2ml to my non virgin muscle pin cushion left quad. Had been getting tolerable pip from the start. But then last Wednesday, it was like a normal jab, nothing felt weird, by Friday was getting slight pip. Saturday I was hobbling. Sunday swelling in the knee and leg, still crippled. No redness no hot to the touch just swelling and tightness. Yesterday was no different, I am out of the gym now I can hardly bend my knee, and sitting or getting in and out of a car is excruciating. Went to emergency room yesterday (Tuesday), told doc I took a b12 injection to my quad 6 days ago, gave me a weird look, but after a full examination he said it wasn't an infection and gave me 600mg ibuprofen and a muscle relaxant called zanaflex... he said it' possibly just muscle spasms, to rest and heat on and off and if it's still bothersome in a week come back. Guys, I'm dying, I have never in my 20+ year history of using ever had this intense pip at 7 days, can' bend my knee more than a little so sitting on a chair is difficult and painful, and for me to be out of the gym all week you know it's bad because I just don't miss, I'm there on Xmas on hurricanes, I was even there the day my dad passed away. I've also missed work, basically bed ridden, praying for a miracle to get better soon. Looking for any advice or encourageent, again no fever, the general area where I pinned is slightly sore all around that area but the pain is involved in moving my leg and bending and walking, just sharp pains and the swelling is very evident down to the knee. I was hoping the doc would thrown me on some cephalexen to fight infections and prednisone for swelling but healthcare is insane, you are at their mercy. So I am gonna gonna give it more time, nothing else I can do but lie awake here suffering. Has anyone every heard of anything like this before? This has got me all depressed, I just want to get strong and be my old self, this fall cycle had me so pumped. I wanna see a light at the end of the tunnel but after 7 days now I am worse than ever, worse than 2 days after. Just the leg, I feel fine, no fever, good appetite, the leg just looks puffy but not red or bad, just not my typical quad. Guys, tell me I'm gonna be okay please, I need someencouragement ☺
Hot bath, get the blood flow going. I have to stick to glutes for my test e at the moment AND jog straight after. Missed work after a delt jab. Stuff's lethal. I won't bore you with the warm it up, stick to glute, don't jab before bed rubbish. That many years in I'm sure you should be teaching me. Never tried tren but your home brew sounded like the nectar of the gods. Good luck and God bless, brother

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I will say this... And this isn't a slam to meimmortal1... This is a general service announcement ;)... Just because it's test400... Or deca500.. Does not mean you put that many milligrams in one spot... I have said this until I'm blue in the face... Bio has also talked about it.. Everytime I see some one complain about pip pain because of high milligram gear it makes me get a nervous tic... Why would you think that is a good idea.. Divide into two separate shots.. 1/2 cc in left quad... 1/2 cc into right quad... No pain.. It's a matter of time before one gets a bad shot when putting 1 cc of high mg gear into one area.. And that one shot can turn into celluitis ...
 

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I would guess it has to do with the oil traveling down your muscle and entering your knee. I've experienced this but not as bad as what you're going through. I've heard that gear with a higher bb content can cause the oil to travel like this. I'm not sure if eo can have the same effect. This is just my opinion of course

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I would guess it has to do with the oil traveling down your muscle and entering your knee. I've experienced this but not as bad as what you're going through. I've heard that gear with a higher bb content can cause the oil to travel like this. I'm not sure if eo can have the same effect. This is just my opinion of course

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If it's EO based gear, then that could definitely have something to do with it. A lot of people have an allergic reaction to EO.
 

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It probably has more to do with crystallizing hormone causing inflammation and irritating nerves running down your leg.

I would guess it has to do with the oil traveling down your muscle and entering your knee. I've experienced this but not as bad as what you're going through. I've heard that gear with a higher bb content can cause the oil to travel like this. I'm not sure if eo can have the same effect. This is just my opinion of course

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It probably has more to do with crystallizing hormone causing inflammation and irritating nerves running down your leg.
This could be true in the op case. I've never pind any crystallized gesr myself

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Hard to say. I've had quad pins that got red and hot but then went away on their own. Had one's that seemed to go smooth but the pip was unbearable for a long time. And I've hit a nerve and god damn that fucking hurts. If I pin quads now I do 1ml or less and I def don't pin the highly concentrated stuff.

And yeah sorry I couldn't read all that the way it was all put together so I didn't make it through your whole post. So be careful, see a doc, and stick to the regular dosed supps like 250 test.
 

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Not often you get a guy come on and openly admit he's never contributed anything but has been around for years reading the forums.

I guess all of his experience meant he was too busy to come back and thank everyone for the help too. Been running gear for 20 years I'm sure he could contribute a lot....
 

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as everyone else said.. DO NOT USE HIGH MG/ML GEAR! :naughty:
thatt is first n foremost.

prob you injected n went between muscles n crystalized. that shits gona hurt n be tight for an easy 2 weeks.

when gear crashes in depot it hurts like a mofo plus 2ccs means you have 1 gram of powder/crystals in your leg! its like shards of glass in the muscle.

also as stated above if you go to dr in all probability they will cut you open, that is gona take a long time to heal. if your shit is sterile it willl prob be ok.

im knotted up n swollen atm due to some experimental shit, it sucks and makes you feel panicky that its an infection but in all probability it is not, or your body can prob deal with it on its own.

taking antibiotics is very bad for your immune system, havent touched them in idk... close to 20 years and will avoid them like the freaking plague.

bad shots happen
its part of this life we all love soooooo much. lol:D
 

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If you’re only pinning half CCs can high concentraation test be okay? Considering a 500/ml test but would only do half ccs of it at a time
 

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WHY?

If you’re only pinning half CCs can high concentraation test be okay? Considering a 500/ml test but would only do half ccs of it at a time

If you're only wanting to do 250mg of test at a time stay away from the high MG shit, just pin 1CC and be done with it, good long ester test will not give you pip!
 

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I have a stash of cephalexan just for the piece of mind, don’t want to have to go to the dr....

I’ve only had to use it a couple times in years, but it’s handy to have just Incase
 

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