Worst side effects of PEDs Dr. Mike

[MR. BMJ]

Personally, I just can't stomach listening to him. I enjoyed reading him and a bunch of other guys he associates with years back, but I got tired of their thinking they are always right on everything, and then when they get criticized, they all have this mob mentality to gang-up on people rather than tell their 'buddies' they are wrong. He was so adamant that his training was the best and only way to train, super high volume and many reps in reserve, that it was funny watching him and many others over the past year back-track down to moderate levels (training volume) and tried justifying what they were preaching before.

He was not lean enough for his shows. He is blocky, so if he is not really lean, it doesn't help him looking soft or unconditioned. Add on a bad tan, and it exacerbates his subpar look further. It's funny because he stated many times over the years that he never used tren....so was he lying, or did he just start taking it recently?

I thought Homonunculus ran circles around him in their discussion and smallish debate a few years back. Same with Lyle McD.

 

[thethinker48]

Nuance should be taught as a subject from a young age

It would help people understand literally every aspect of life more effectively

Unfortunately much of modern day content relies on the presumption that you can answer questions definitively without it's existence

 

[richieid911]

Always weird to me people describing taking aas and feeling altered like. It’s like they took drugs. I never feeling anything other the. Wanting sex more and abit better then normal.

 

[Fattyone]

Always weird to me people describing taking aas and feeling altered

Interesting.

It’s like they took drugs

Yes, go on..

I never feeling anything

Nothing??

other the. Wanting sex more and abit better then normal

Ok so something?


We all respond differently to *insert literally anything, including AAS*

 

[cal]

Yeah.. I listen to that last week.. hes really pushing the grams. Some people can handle it some can't. If he's having violent thoughts etc then he needs to understand he's not meant for that high a dose or rearrange the compounds. But putting put this kind of crap is just asking for views.. again, the poison is in the dosage.. lower the dose or get rid of some compounds.. if I even get a hint of anxiety etc I make a change real quick..

hes really not meant for bodybuilding in general.

 

[cal]

Have you ever used tren 400mgs and up? Almost no one wants to admit it, but tren is the most detrimental drug out there, it will affect your thoughts, decision making, empathy, jealousy, memory, gay feelings, a sense of worthlessnes, and just plain crazy, but you deny it until you get off and then you are like, what the hell was i thinking?

none of those but get some serious prolactin sides, ...white stuff coming out of nipples. sqeeuzed them and would squirt out white liquid for several seconds. prolactin meds worked out but ...so damn pricey.

 

[Siggy]

none of those but get some serious prolactin sides, ...white stuff coming out of nipples. sqeeuzed them and would squirt out white liquid for several seconds. prolactin meds worked out but ...so damn pricey.

What did it taste like?

 

[cal]

What did it taste like?

lol. I did not do a taste test. At time it was so bad I could squeeze and it would spray for like 10 seconds and could make it happen several times in a row. I dont really get sides other than from progesterone increasing ones it appears. I tried A50 half a dozen times with different brands at a good dosage up to 150 and really nothing happened good or bad. Got more results from 5 mg of dbol than 150 of drol.

 

[qbkilla]

Damn looks like they tried to get Mike on but he wasn't interested. 15:00ish. Would have loved to hear him make his case for rir vs some guys who prefer lower frequency more intense training.

 

[specter]

As someone who has done some stupid ass shit dose wise, i once ran 1050mg tren ace for 3 weeks during a cut, i went up from 700mg ew.. now tren for me doesnt make me psycotic, raging, violent or any of that stuff, it fucks up my sleep, my bloodpressure and makes insanely horny 24/7 and able to controll when i want to cum for some reason.. also it makes me feel like a god in the gym.. we just get different sides from different drugs and im thankfull that i didnt get bad thoughts etc from tren but some ppl do sadly..

 

[EdgeCrusher1982]

Mike seems like he's on a sour grapes tour ever since he failed again at his last show.

 

[Liter O' Test]

1. Keep testosterone low
2. Keep intensity low
3. take hallucinogens frequently
4. meet with the "clockwork elves"
5. unironically want A.I and machines to take over humanity
6. fly around the elite technocracy civilization in your hover throne

 

[heavyhitter]

Yep, Doctor Mike is definitely not the greatest representation of the AAS community but I’m curious if that’s due to his mental health prior to AAS or after. Either way I do respect him and think you can learn about of basic/intermediate lifting and nutrition info from his channel but he says some pretty outlandish stuff sometimes

Let’s be real….ALL of us who are willing I push dangerous doses of drugs to get “huge” started with mental health problems before the drugs

 

[heavyhitter]

Have you ever used tren 400mgs and up? Almost no one wants to admit it, but tren is the most detrimental drug out there, it will affect your thoughts, decision making, empathy, jealousy, memory, gay feelings, a sense of worthlessnes, and just plain crazy, but you deny it until you get off and then you are like, what the hell was i thinking?

Depends on the person. I ran it at a gram and a half a week for a long time. No such sides to speak of besides sweating. Nowadays though….100mg week destroys my appetite

 

[Grundle_Goblin]

Mike seems like he's on a sour grapes tour ever since he failed again at his last show.

Have you seen how big his head is? Shit I’d be angry too.

 

[b-boy]

You’re comparing things on extreme ends that are more of a personal choice, and the context is missing for most of the situations above.

What really matters is…

1- Progression. Neither RIR nor high intensity will be effective long term unless you apply the principles of progressive overload. The overall numbers, regardless of the method, must improve.

2- Progressively more food to grow. If you keep calories at maintenance, neither method will do anything but keep your wheels spinning in place.

3- If on PED’s, slowly progressing your dose to see how much you need to match your training and nutrition.


I’ve used bro splits… all the DC splits… Fortitude (very high frequency), splits catered around schedule needs, and splits needed for personal/specific improvement. I’ve trained with DC (was an actual client of Dante), with Scott Stevenson (Fortitude), and on my own.

80-90% of real bodybuilding is the consistency of your food, your judgement calls and decisions about your diet/drugs/training, and your ability to progress in whatever training methods you’ve chosen. Also, factor in staying as injury free as possible.

Some of these debates are just so pointless. It’s a sport about outcomes. Show me the people walking around like total monsters, and I’ll show you what they all have in common… which is what listed above.

How many monsters are on this board? What guys on here can compete at heavy or superheavy, or guys on here (under 6’0”) north of 250lbs at sub 10%?

Most of these debates are being fueled by those who are NOT those people. It’s no coincidence.

 

[AllLoadedUp]

I never tried a lot of different things. I could not use Tren. Tried it twice and got sick with Bronchitis both times. Made me train really intensely but I did not like the way I felt on it. No crazy thoughts or anything. Just didn't feel good. Couldn't use Dbol from the back pumps. Superdrol was good results wise but didn't feel great on it either.

The one thing that absolutely effected me psychologically was Clomid. Back in the day when cycling on/off I used it for PCT one time. I got really depressed on it. Never used it again and never had that problem again. Just used Nolva from then on. On the positive side from it I did shoot some Peter North loads.

 

[cal]

Personally, I just can't stomach listening to him. I enjoyed reading him and a bunch of other guys he associates with years back, but I got tired of their thinking they are always right on everything, and then when they get criticized, they all have this mob mentality to gang-up on people rather than tell their 'buddies' they are wrong. He was so adamant that his training was the best and only way to train, super high volume and many reps in reserve, that it was funny watching him and many others over the past year back-track down to moderate levels (training volume) and tried justifying what they were preaching before.

He was not lean enough for his shows. He is blocky, so if he is not really lean, it doesn't help him looking soft or unconditioned. Add on a bad tan, and it exacerbates his subpar look further. It's funny because he stated many times over the years that he never used tren....so was he lying, or did he just start taking it recently?

I thought Homonunculus ran circles around him in their discussion and smallish debate a few years back. Same with Lyle McD.

agree same crap ive heard a million times over. amazing how much of a following he has ...