The Other Side of GLPs

[my_way]

I almost forgot why I started the thread. The food industry will absolutely have an answer to GLP’s. This is only the start.

What do you mean?

 

[bbxtreme]

What do you mean?

Read my original post and the article I linked. The food industry is already researching new ways to bypass GLP’s to make food addictive again to people. GLP’s are bad for their business.

 

[KingOfSushi]

The reduced need for insulin, the amazing glucose levels in the morning, and the nutrient partitioning are like using Tren year-round

Aren’t there other diabetic drug options that do this WITHOUT the appetite issues, though?

And while I’d love to be proved wrong (genuinely), I don’t we can say it’s comparable to tren year round especially in nutrient partitioning.

 

[Bobik]

I have no appetite problems on Reta or Tirz. I am still hungry and have an appetite. I use low doses of course... But Tirz - fatigue, Reta - great energy, but quite a high HR. Higher HR than Tirz.

 

[nothuman]

Didn't realize there's friendly food choice for GLP-1 peeps.

When the metformin craze was alive and kicking a few years back. I don't recall seeing biguanide friendly foods on the shelves.

I’m just glad they called it GLP-1 friendly and not Ozempic friendly #progress

 

[IFBBProDomCardone]

What he did after the regional show doesn’t take away from what he accomplished physique wise for the regional show. He kept pushing when it wasn’t necessary after. He could have cruised into nationals and walked away with it. But his body did what it has every year for the past like 3 years with ending up in the hospital. Someone asked about running Reta into a prep. He did. He looked fantastic.

There was no pushing after nationals, he got extremely sick the weekend of the show. I forced him to go to the hospital 8 days later as he was sick all week following that show. It all started many weeks before, he went from 250s to 230s a in 3 weeks (He was in the 220s week of the regional show). I was left scratching my head wondering what happened and trying to find solutions, not being told of all the extra compounds he was using. Retatrutide, a grocery list of other research chemicals, waking up at night and taking 36iu of "gh" because of a dream, on top of ephedrine abuse, and all the other PEDS, was no a success by any means. Having 5 cooks in the kitchen is never a success.

 

[Stewie]

I’m just glad they called it GLP-1 friendly and not Ozempic friendly #progress

It's marketing hype BS. It's bits of a similar twist on what the sugar industry portrayed in the '60s proclaiming fats were bad; sugar was healthy.

 

[finephysique]

Most people initially use GLP-1 receptor agonists for weight loss due to their appetite-suppressing effects. However, as that appeal fades, the real benefits become clear—improved insulin sensitivity, and glucose control. I genuinely think @danieltx is on the right track by using these for bulking instead of cutting right from the start. Compared to Reta, Tirz seems far superior for this goal. The reduced need for insulin, the amazing glucose levels in the morning, and the nutrient partitioning are like using Tren year-round without any of the downsides. It’s only a matter of time before more people realize that the true game is using these for bulking rather than cutting.

Or just using them to feel better when bulking or cutting as a low dose of them will make you feel better all round. I had a problem with over eating sometimes that is gone but my hunger and my want for 5 to 6 meals a day is always there.

 

[KingOfSushi]

Or just using them to feel better when bulking or cutting as a low dose of them will make you feel better all round.

Can you explain what you mean here

 

[FuriousAngus]

Can you explain what you mean here

GLP drugs are anti-inflammatory; many people report things like joint discomfort gone, feeling overall better, etc. on these drugs. In fact, I have IBS and it's making my stomach much better now that the gastric emptying is mostly gone.

 

[KingOfSushi]

GLP drugs are anti-inflammatory; many people report things like joint discomfort gone, feeling overall better, etc. on these drugs. In fact, I have IBS and it's making my stomach much better now that the gastric emptying is mostly gone.

I’m aware they are anti-inflammatory, just not sure how INHERENTLY anti-inflammatory they are when weight-loss from them isn’t coinciding with their use vs. many other anti-inflammatory things we use (metformin, telmi, omega 3s, curcumin, d3 and c, etc)

 

[finephysique]

Can you explain what you mean here

When I use a low dose of tirz whether I’m saying more or trying to lose some fat I feel so much better. The anti inflammatory effect, my digestion is better, I don’t get bloated, I don’t feel like snacking, I can eat perfectly well but I can sag no. I know some people say just use your willpower and for years when I competed I did just that but why not have some help. The same people rarely say just use your natural test to get big and ripped.
It is hard to fully describe the effects of these but I have taken 8 weeks off to see it was not just in my head and it certainly wasn’t. They are now as interesting and life changing for me as some replacement test is. These discussions are the ones I involve myself in more than any others now as glp1s are the first thing since gh about 20 years ago that have lived up to all the hype.

 

[finephysique]

I’m aware they are anti-inflammatory, just not sure how INHERENTLY anti-inflammatory they are when weight-loss from them isn’t coinciding with their use vs. many other anti-inflammatory things we use (metformin, telmi, omega 3s, curcumin, d3 and c, etc)

For me there is no comparison between the things you listed and tirzepatide, many of those have a place as well but they are just totally different

 

[primobolan]

For me there is no comparison between the things you listed and tirzepatide, many of those have a place as well but they are just totally different

this 100% in terms of reta as well

 

[KingOfSushi]

For me there is no comparison between the things you listed and tirzepatide, many of those have a place as well but they are just totally different

Of course they are different as a whole. I’m responding to simply the aspect and being anti inflammatories…

 

[finephysique]

this 100% in terms of reta as well

I will probably try reta at some point but I also have it in my head of keeping on tirz as it works so well for me and if it’s not broke, don’t fix it.

 

[qbkilla]

What do you mean?

This would almost be comical if big food and big pharma got into a battle who can win over the fatties...and also illustrates the point many have made. Without actual discipline and lifestyle changes...these drugs are nothing more than a bandaid. Give a man a fish vs teach a man to fish.

 

[my_way]

This would almost be comical if big food and big pharma got into a battle who can win over the fatties...and also illustrates the point many have made. Without actual discipline and lifestyle changes...these drugs are nothing more than a bandaid. Give a man a fish vs teach a man to fish.

I mean how far can they really go though if hypothetically people decide to just stick with clean foods while on glp?
Will food companies start adding shit to lean meats and fruit/ vegetables?

GLP-1s tend to change people’s decision making with their food choices. When I was on sema and tirz, foods that I normally loved like fried chicken and ice cream no longer even tasted good.

 

[qbkilla]

I mean how far can they really go though if hypothetically people decide to just stick with clean foods while on glp?
Will food companies start adding shit to lean meats and fruit/ vegetables?

GLP-1s tend to change people’s decision making with their food choices. When I was on sema and tirz, foods that I normally loved like fried chicken and ice cream no longer even tasted good.

Interesting. But I'd assume that most people who can't lose weight with diet and activity and resort to this, still eat the same foods they just can't physically eat the same quantities?

 

[my_way]

Interesting. But I'd assume that most people who can't lose weight with diet and activity and resort to this, still eat the same foods they just can't physically eat the same quantities?

True I just contradicted myself there. I know when I was on it, eating 2k calories of lean meat was much more difficult as opposed to just a few protein bars then calling it a day.