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would love any input

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Hey guys,

I'll try and make this brief but here is what i'm freaking out about.

I'm 21 and at a recent physical I had some blood work done, just the standard shit but I asked the doctor to test testosterone levels as well. He reluctantly agreed saying "I would be floored given your amount of muscle mass if you were anything but on the high end". Now i'm not all that big being a natural lifter, but not small either (6'3" 240lbs about 10-12%). Anways, the results came back and my test. was at approx 1.6! The "normal" range is about 2.7-12.0 for males age 20-50. Needless to say I had it retested yesterday (one month later) and have an appointment to talk to him about the results next week.

Now here's the thing, i've always kind of thought (within the past 4-5 years) I have had some side effects of low testosterones, specifically a very low sex drive and terrible erection quality. I also get pretty lethargic sometimes and have bouts of what seems like mild depression.

Also, I was always pretty fat growing up and I developed gyno at around age 13-14 and had it untill I was 19 where I got it surgically corrected. That seems indicitave of some kind of hormone imbalance.

The confusing part to me is that it doesn't seem like I have a very hard time holding on to muscle mass or gaining strength (although it is a biiitch to get shredded), and I'm also a hairy MF'er. I powerlifted as a teenager and was squatting and deading in the 500's at 17y\o, so my symptoms seem to be contraindicative.

Like I said, I've never done a cycle before and I wasn't taking any supplements around the time of my test. The only thing I can think of is that I was a bit overtrained from being on a cutting diet and doing a lot of cardio.

I'm just trying to get some insight here from anyone who has experienced this or knows someone in a similar situation. I don't necessarily want to have to be on HRT for the rest of my life as a 21 y\o but I would love have a decent sex drive (so would my girlfriend) and be able to shed the last layer of what seems like "baby fat" that is so god damn stubborn. I'm normally a big time endo, but being an exercise science major i've busted my ass to get down to where I am now bodyfat-wise, which is probably still considered "fat" to some of you guys, but the leanest i've ever been.

Lastly, my father is in his fifties and is on HRT, and they think it was diagnosed late and linked to bouts of depression he had in years past.

Any advice or thoughts are appreciated I'm just trying to figure things out. Researching on the internet does nothing but freak me out and make me think I have all types of diseases like Klinefelters or somethine ridiculous... which I hope isn't the case. Also, I will let you know how my appointment goes with my doc a week from friday... I don't know how experienced he is with HRT I'm guessing I'll just get a referral to an endo if it's low again.

Thanks,
James
 
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i'll throw you a bone, since no one else will.
I don't know what you are going through, but I do know what you are not going through.You should make a list of everything that is in your favor. You sound like a pretty big natural guy, you get strong as hell, you have a girl friend who cares for you, I think you said you are getting your education, etc. I'm sure you are scared, I would be to. but come on you have a lot going for you and it sounds like there is a lot to come. You are still very young and there is tons of help out there. I can think of a bunch of stuff that is a lot worse than low test. How about the people who wake up every day asking themselves if this is the day they are going to do them selves in. There are people struggling with this everyday, that to me is a problem. I don't know if I could go to sleep thinking about that and then waking up woundering if I do this will people miss me. I had an uncle just do this and we can not figure out what was going through his head.

I know your a little down I've been there, and I don't care what anyone says It's is in your head. The people on this board that have dieted for shows know what I'm talkinh about. I start out on my diet down and out, a few weeks in I get this energy like you would not believe. Sure I'm on edge because if I look at one more chicken breast or pot of oat meal I'll puke but something changes in me and I can't explain it. I have purpose. I have goals . I have a target and dreams, and I know if I keep this up I am going to kick everyones butt on that stage. Then the last two weeks come along and I look and feel like a zombie and I'm back in the whole. But I still place every single time I walk on that stage and that feeling was only toped by the birth of my son. now I have a training partner. He has his own swing in my gym and he sits in there queitly until I'm done training. Now I have a new purpose.
I know this is long but all I'm saying is your future is brighter than you can even amagine. Stay positive, if you need drugs to help out your libido so what, keep studying and training, and everything always has a way of working out you just have to be patient. relax and enjoy life because one day your going to look into your kids eyes and wonder what you were so worried about.
 
I have a similar situation as you..

Im 21yo, somewhat decent natural build (5'9 225lbs @ 14%bf or so). Ive competed in powerlifting and done ok too (600/350/575) Ive gotten all my blood work done and test can back low as well (400 ng/dl). My erections suck, I loose them when having sex with my girlfriend (if i even get to sex). I think alot of it is in my head, but the second I even think about it im screwed. I got some cialis and at 20mg it seems to make me good for 3-4 days.. I dont know what im going to do in the future though.

No doctor is ever going to put someone under 25yo on trt is my bet. Its just a matter of time before I give up and do a cycle of test just to be normal for a while.
 
I JUST THINK IT'S TERRIFIC THAT YOU HAD YOUR LEVELS CHECKED!

SMART! IF YOU ARE LOW THAT'S SURE AN EASY FIX....THANK GOD FOR THAT RIGHT?

I'VE GONE IN SEVERAL TIMES DURING MY LIFE HOPING MY LEVELS WOULD BE LOW ENOUGH SO THAT I'D GET A PRESCRIPTION.

LIKE...WENT OFF....WAITED UNTIL I WAS SURE MY LEVELS WERE LOW...THEN WENT IN.....STILL HIGHER THAN YOUR LEVELS.

NO POINT IN LIVING WITH THAT SHIT.....IT SUCKS, I KNOW. THAT POOR ERECTION QUALITY IS ABSOLUTELY NO FUN FOR ANYONE AND IT MESSES WITH YOUR MIND.

I HAD THAT HAPPEN TO ME WHEN I WAS 22....THAT WAS THE LAST TIME I USED DECA.....OR HCG. I COULDN'T GET A GOOD ERECTION FOR A MONTH. SO, I HEAR YOU.
 

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