There is so much more to life then blowing thousands of dollars on drugs JUST to be PRO SIZE. Friends, family, kids, spouses, vacations, houses etc that can be enjoyed in life... It's sad really to here some of these stories
Are there any studies or articles to back this up? I've never heard this before.
So by "clog them up", you need to come off to get them un-clogged? Or cruise?
What about guys like bboy who constantly stay on hormones and simply switch around compounds instead of blasting and cruising. He keeps making gains... I'm pretty sure the sides arent hitting him really hard.
I think Emeric is talking about the point of dominishing returns in AAS dose, which I completely agree with.
The funny thing is this --- If someone on here heard a guy was 5 10' and 214 lbs in awesome shape, they would hardly think that person is even CLOSE TO PRO SIZE.
Yet if that same doubting person met Flex Wheeler in 1992 when he won USA's at those exact stats --- that person would absolutely say that is PRO SIZE!
You know how many messes I have seen in state shows that are 250+ and damn hard that are big dudes but look like dog shit?
Pro Size could be "stats" that on paper sounds not very impressive, but face to face your 265 lbs would look less impressive than their 210, 220 what have you......
-FF
yes this is totally true statement. I think people mis understand what pro muscle really means. Flex turned pro at 216lbs at a ht. of 5-10. Most people would think that is small for a heavyweight, unless they were 5-7 or under. I have been up to 280 plus pounds before, and it wasnt even close to pro size. I was big, and bulky. But I didnt look anything like a offseason pro bodybuilder.
Flex Wheeler 1992 NPC USA Champion - YouTube
go to the 10 min and 18 second mark, and look at Wheeler here. This was his second pro show, and I think he was right at 218lbs here. Weight doesnt really mean much if you look like this
This is why pro size is irrelevant cuz genetics mean everything...
BigMike295 convinced me to switch to all whole foods and up the calories this past off-season, with a lower dose of gear. It was the worst I have felt and looked in years. I was in peak condition last september. I am still struggling to get back to that condition. All the dietary change did was made me extremely fatigued to where my training suffered. I was out of breath all the time carrying around 264Lbs. I felt like I was on the verge of a heart attack. I will never do that again. My muscles are full and vascular on protein drinks. I feel 10x healthier and still maintain 250Lbs, but I look and feel a hell of alot better. Again, as with the death of my friend, bulking up is a killer when you are on tons of gear. All that extra food has to be processed by the liver. If you have ever seen the documentary, SUPER SIZE ME, you will remember what the one month of high calorie food did to his liver values. My liver was cleaner on 5 grams of gear.
Interesting, I remember Mike was helping you but didnt know how it affected you like that. That sucks.
Ya I'm with ya bro, very hard to believe that... Protein drinks are way worse for the digestive tract than whole foods. Should have just shrank his portions down....
Very true shit dexter dieted for years on 3 protein shakes, 3 meals and taco bell at night... Talk about genetics... I limit my protein drinks to one. I hate them. Muscles look so much denser and harder with whole foods
I don't know who in their right minds has a simple protein shake and counts it as a meal. You are supposed to have food alongside your shake. Like oats or rice with the shake. That way your muscles look full
yes this is totally true statement. I think people mis understand what pro muscle really means. Flex turned pro at 216lbs at a ht. of 5-10. Most people would think that is small for a heavyweight, unless they were 5-7 or under. I have been up to 280 plus pounds before, and it wasnt even close to pro size. I was big, and bulky. But I didnt look anything like a offseason pro bodybuilder.
Flex Wheeler 1992 NPC USA Champion - YouTube
go to the 10 min and 18 second mark, and look at Wheeler here. This was his second pro show, and I think he was right at 218lbs here. Weight doesnt really mean much if you look like this