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I started my 3rd cycle back on 8/25 trying out tren for the 1st time. 210 Test + 350 tren. Did this for 7 weeks with very disappointing results compared to my 2 previous cycles which involved OTC superdrol products and no or moderate test. I later found out from blood work and from 5-10 PMs that my gear was very underdosed (e.g. my total T was only 550 on 210mg test).
So I decided to accept that as basically cruise doses and extend my original 8 week cycle to 18-20 weeks. Took out the underdosed tren, ran the underdosed test at 1000mg to get a true 4-500mg and dbol at 25-50mg per day. Of course I got fake dbol and gained nothing from it lol, confirmed by the fact that my natural friend tried it for ~2 weeks working up to "75mg"/day and gained literally nothing. So lesson learned, get legit products
Finally I said OK I'll go on the OTC superdrol products again (super-dmz 2.0) for 4 weeks with the 4-500 test and finish with 4 weeks of just the 4-500 test. Well today was my last day of the super-dmz and although the gains were far better than on the underdosed injectables/fake dbol, its nothing crazy. I'm ahead of where I was strength wise from my last cycle but only maybe 10lb or a few reps here and there, and I'm thinking if thats the case with the superdrol + test then finishing these last 4 weeks with just the test seems pointless, and that maybe my body just needs to kind of "reset" so I should just end the cycle now so I can start my next one sooner in 10-12 weeks and have a more effective 4 weeks of gaining then before I start my 12 week cut to get read for a vacation (which is what I'm trying to peak for).
So basically, do you guys agree on ending the cycle now, and any thoughts on the best way to go about it to have the best results by June? The beginning lack of results are pretty easily explainable by the underdosed gear but like I said even now it's nothing crazy. Back, my already strongest body part, has made the most improvements it seems...pressing exercises have always been the hardest for me to progress on. At this point after today's somewhat poor workout I'm thinking coming off to reset everything could potentially make the most sense in the long run.
As for diet, I am eating ~3200-3500 calories, almost entirely clean, gaining weight just not a ton of quality weight. Basic bodybuilding type training that has worked well for me in the past. ~6'0 203lb as of this morning. I have had people suggest blasting and cruising but with me being 21 I don't know if I'm ready for that and in the past I haven't had trouble maintaining gains while off as long as I don't try to cut naturally.
So I decided to accept that as basically cruise doses and extend my original 8 week cycle to 18-20 weeks. Took out the underdosed tren, ran the underdosed test at 1000mg to get a true 4-500mg and dbol at 25-50mg per day. Of course I got fake dbol and gained nothing from it lol, confirmed by the fact that my natural friend tried it for ~2 weeks working up to "75mg"/day and gained literally nothing. So lesson learned, get legit products
Finally I said OK I'll go on the OTC superdrol products again (super-dmz 2.0) for 4 weeks with the 4-500 test and finish with 4 weeks of just the 4-500 test. Well today was my last day of the super-dmz and although the gains were far better than on the underdosed injectables/fake dbol, its nothing crazy. I'm ahead of where I was strength wise from my last cycle but only maybe 10lb or a few reps here and there, and I'm thinking if thats the case with the superdrol + test then finishing these last 4 weeks with just the test seems pointless, and that maybe my body just needs to kind of "reset" so I should just end the cycle now so I can start my next one sooner in 10-12 weeks and have a more effective 4 weeks of gaining then before I start my 12 week cut to get read for a vacation (which is what I'm trying to peak for).
So basically, do you guys agree on ending the cycle now, and any thoughts on the best way to go about it to have the best results by June? The beginning lack of results are pretty easily explainable by the underdosed gear but like I said even now it's nothing crazy. Back, my already strongest body part, has made the most improvements it seems...pressing exercises have always been the hardest for me to progress on. At this point after today's somewhat poor workout I'm thinking coming off to reset everything could potentially make the most sense in the long run.
As for diet, I am eating ~3200-3500 calories, almost entirely clean, gaining weight just not a ton of quality weight. Basic bodybuilding type training that has worked well for me in the past. ~6'0 203lb as of this morning. I have had people suggest blasting and cruising but with me being 21 I don't know if I'm ready for that and in the past I haven't had trouble maintaining gains while off as long as I don't try to cut naturally.
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