Looks healthy and happy, good for him.
and alot of people keep saying on here its not just drugs its genetics...ummm these pictures show you his genetics...very normal genetics nothing about him stands out about his non PED physique....so is it still genetics or just insane amount of drugs to overcome normal genetics. HMMMMM rolleyes:
Well, there are some things you have to consider now with these recent pictures: his age, did he have or does he still have some health issues, does he ever really work out that hard anymore, his diet now, etc. Some of the benefits from genetics are going to be your response to weight training and the drugs. Some guys will need more training and more drugs to get the same results. He could be very gifted in this aspect and probably is.Remove that stimulus and you look like an average guy.
i hear what your saying maldorf that his genetics may be in his bodies response to PED's and i am not disagreeing with you at all but that picture i beleive was taken in 2009 as i surf the web and he was huge in 2006. what i am saying though is the genetic freak with huge thighs from the get go never lifted a weight in their lives but got thighs like tree trunks...i know my cousin is one of those freaks huge thighs i mean huge and never squatted or even hit the gym a day in his life. now that there is the genetics i and most people assume when the subject is brought up in the forums
Well, there are some things you have to consider now with these recent pictures: his age, did he have or does he still have some health issues, does he ever really work out that hard anymore, his diet now, etc. Some of the benefits from genetics are going to be your response to weight training and the drugs. Some guys will need more training and more drugs to get the same results. He could be very gifted in this aspect and probably is.Remove that stimulus and you look like an average guy.
i hear what your saying maldorf that his genetics may be in his bodies response to PED's and i am not disagreeing with you at all but that picture i beleive was taken in 2009 as i surf the web and he was huge in 2006. what i am saying though is the genetic freak with huge thighs from the get go never lifted a weight in their lives but got thighs like tree trunks...i know my cousin is one of those freaks huge thighs i mean huge and never squatted or even hit the gym a day in his life. now that there is the genetics i and most people assume when the subject is brought up in the forums
I think to make a fair conclusion about him you would have to see pictures of him when he was a young man (teen to early 20s). I do agree with your points though.
and alot of people keep saying on here its not just drugs its genetics...ummm these pictures show you his genetics...very normal genetics nothing about him stands out about his non PED physique....so is it still genetics or just insane amount of drugs to overcome normal genetics. HMMMMM rolleyes:
Well, there are some things you have to consider now with these recent pictures: his age, did he have or does he still have some health issues, does he ever really work out that hard anymore, his diet now, etc. Some of the benefits from genetics are going to be your response to weight training and the drugs. Some guys will need more training and more drugs to get the same results. He could be very gifted in this aspect and probably is.Remove that stimulus and you look like an average guy. Look at Kevin Levrone. I met him once about 6 yrs ago or so at the Arnold and I was a lot bigger than him, he looked like an average guy, but if he trains hard and takes a few things he blows up incredible.
Wow, how is that even possible....insane reverse transformation. I wonder why is it that some pros stop and come off but keep a little size and other shrink to nothing
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