Bostin Loyd lays out the truth about Dallas McCarver and the BB industry

[Kaladryn]

His stuff was all human grade I would dare venture to say. Far different than the UGL stuff others are taking. 1g of test Ugl is far different than 500mg of human grade. Same with the growth.

This might be true for you, I suggest you find a different UGL. I test my UGL compounds, they are 100% potency.

 

[tmuscle]

I remember seeing the video with Nick T and John, and thinking, this kid is far to young to be that big. I always wonder what John gets from tutoring these young boys?

John is definitely known to be a little predator of sorts...

 

[tmuscle]

It's this type of behavior (of Dallas, Bostin, and bodybuilders in general) that has lead me away from the people of this sport. It's embarrassing. I'm lucky to have met the friends I have left in bodybuilding. We were definitely cut from a different cloth.

You like lifting weights? You like clean food? Great! Shut up and go enjoy it. Not in a "Go do work son!" kind of way either. Enjoy your training sessions. Enjoy your meals. Enjoy the fact that you weren't born in a third world country and that you have many advantages in life. Enjoy your friends (real life, not other egomaniacs) and family and kids and dogs and jobs and schools.

Bodybuilding isn't special. We essentially spend the same amount of time in the gym that everybody else does. We still have to feed our faces like the rest of society. You should have plenty of time for LIFE. Look at John Meadows. He has a wife, kids, and (did have) a real job, AND a successful business giving back to idiots like us... Scott Stevenson has more education and life experience in his 40's than most of use will have in 3 life times...

I'm not anti-bodybuilding... I love this sport and have for 10+ years of my life. I'm just at the point where I see where people go wrong and why. I wish I had made better choices when I was younger. I'm able to have so much more in my life now than I did before, yet my results in the gym are still fantastic. I probably look better now and am a healthier individual than when my brain was 100% wrapped around my next show.

Imagine the amount of effort a heroin addict puts forth in his or her life to get high. If that effort was put towards building a good life, the possibilities are endless. Now replace heroin addict with bodybuilder. There's no difference.

Thanks for chiming in Big Dave.

I want to add so much to what you have to say, that I don't really know where to start. But I agree with a lot of what you said.

I am really turned away from people in the sport as well. I enjoy making new friends in the gym, am very friendly towards other trainees, offer diet and training advice to others, but I have found that the people of the cult tend to be quite... different and not always in a good way. That is why I keep my interactions with other bodybuilders within the gym and online for the most part. And this hobby of mine is kept a secret. Even in the gym, it's funny how much gossip happens between the regulars... There are some good guys out there in this sport though.

I find it funny when people on social media networks talk about the gym as if it were a "go to war" effort, and that when they make any kind of changes to their body, they suddenly think it makes them superior and they hop in one competition and suddenly they are a dieting and training coach. I can't help but laugh at this. And they post progress pictures of themselves and their meals nonstop as if anyone actually gives a shit.

One thing that really turned me off about this whole "Cult" is it's ties with Gay 4 pay, hardcore/softcore porn, softcore nude photography, stripping, etc. I thought it was all a joke until I looked into it further and it was true. There was a respected poster on another forum that was an IFBB pro who recently turned to Wrestling and videos of his "cams" surfaced masturbating on camera, and he now doesn't even post there anymore LOL. I was shocked to see so many male/female bodybuilders who are in porn, how many women who do porn that compete in female bikini, and ifbb pros/top npc amateurs and even fitness athletes who have done cam shows / porn / softcore photography / stripping. It makes me want nothing to do with the "sport." It makes me wonder what else goes on... Luckily only the guys who are "in the know" truly know the depths of the dark side of the "sport".

 

[oliveoil]

Thanks for chiming in Big Dave.

I want to add so much to what you have to say, that I don't really know where to start. But I agree with a lot of what you said.

I am really turned away from people in the sport as well. I enjoy making new friends in the gym, am very friendly towards other trainees, offer diet and training advice to others, but I have found that the people of the cult tend to be quite... different and not always in a good way. That is why I keep my interactions with other bodybuilders within the gym and online for the most part. And this hobby of mine is kept a secret. Even in the gym, it's funny how much gossip happens between the regulars... There are some good guys out there in this sport though.

I find it funny when people on social media networks talk about the gym as if it were a "go to war" effort, and that when they make any kind of changes to their body, they suddenly think it makes them superior and they hop in one competition and suddenly they are a dieting and training coach. I can't help but laugh at this. And they post progress pictures of themselves and their meals nonstop as if anyone actually gives a shit.

One thing that really turned me off about this whole "Cult" is it's ties with Gay 4 pay, hardcore/softcore porn, softcore nude photography, stripping, etc. I thought it was all a joke until I looked into it further and it was true. There was a respected poster on another forum that was an IFBB pro who recently turned to Wrestling and videos of his "cams" surfaced masturbating on camera, and he now doesn't even post there anymore LOL. I was shocked to see so many male/female bodybuilders who are in porn, how many women who do porn that compete in female bikini, and ifbb pros/top npc amateurs and even fitness athletes who have done cam shows / porn / softcore photography / stripping. It makes me want nothing to do with the "sport." It makes me wonder what else goes on... Luckily only the guys who are "in the know" truly know the depths of the dark side of the "sport".

How could any of this surprise you? You are talking about an activity that revolves around showing off the human body.

 

[NewbieMan]

How could any of this surprise you? You are talking about an activity that revolves around showing off the human body.

Ya its kinda expected lol.

 

[Bad Fox]

OK.... So here is the deal. Consider this the gospel and can only be said 500 times LOL.

The right combo and dose of gear is essential to being a competitor.
The right peptides are also very important to success.
HGH is a must and lots of it.
Have a slin doc on board.
Ancillaries are a must to combat sides
Orals must be used to be competitive
High protein diet is a must...........................


Although I believe that most will shy away from shakes in lue of natural protein sources........ and thus the big out pouring of controversy on the part of those that sell alternative protein sources.

It takes a very large amount of money to afford these drug protocals.
Weve all known this for a very long time.
To be a pro..... takes risking health. (Very large doses)
Most of us aren't going to be pros

People suck dick to afford these.......... shame on them.


Bottom line....... its not 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 grams .... its more. We all have heard of 30 plus ius of gh and slin. Who cares. Are you going to do it Mr. normal gym guy? Fuck no!!!!!! Will you continue to buy all the supplements? Fuck yes you will. Know why?.......... Because we are not pros and we really want to believe all the bullshit that they spew.

Have a lovely evening!!!!!!!

PS..... this guy is the biggest tool bag I have ever listened to. Def not someone you want to follow and emulate. Psycho hater comes to mind.

 

[D_trip]

And heres how Dorian Yates ranks the importance:

1.training
2.genetics
3.nutrition
4.steroids

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4Nh3HGLCwY[/youtube]
(skip to around the 20 min mark)

and in one of the other parts he talks about what he used which is nowhere near some of the amounts being talked about here....

Well, Dorian aint being completly honest either.

I've seen videon where he claim 1g test per week, "never touched gh". And in another one its 750mg test and some gh.

I respect pros being honest about use of gear, but keep it real or dont talk about the amounts.

 

[bigtroyboy1]

I watched all his videos. Smart kid. Too many haters on this thread.

 

[MyoVirus]

Wait what IFBB bikini girls are doing porn???

 

[Pusher]

Wait what IFBB bikini girls are doing porn???

x2

 

[Kaladryn]

One thing that really turned me off about this whole "Cult" is it's ties with Gay 4 pay, hardcore/softcore porn, softcore nude photography, stripping, etc. I thought it was all a joke until I looked into it further and it was true. There was a respected poster on another forum that was an IFBB pro who recently turned to Wrestling and videos of his "cams" surfaced masturbating on camera, and he now doesn't even post there anymore LOL. I was shocked to see so many male/female bodybuilders who are in porn, how many women who do porn that compete in female bikini, and ifbb pros/top npc amateurs and even fitness athletes who have done cam shows / porn / softcore photography / stripping. It makes me want nothing to do with the "sport." It makes me wonder what else goes on... Luckily only the guys who are "in the know" truly know the depths of the dark side of the "sport".

What in the hell is wrong with porn? You obviously watch a lot of it to be so informed. You should share your "research" with us.

 

[Knight9]

Yes I am going to need a list of female names.

 

[kcs]

brandi mae my favorite. yvette bova and nicole savage not so hot.

Yes I am going to need a list of female names.

 

[ThinkTank]

This might be true for you, I suggest you find a different UGL. I test my UGL compounds, they are 100% potency.

O'rly? What type of testing and where?

 

[ThinkTank]

I like Bostin's honesty and approach and I do enjoy the entertainment of the drama, however you can tell he is a young guy who needs to filter his comments a little.

While he is certainly at liberty to take the risk of discussing his drug use - he could have got his point across without throwing the trainer under the bus.

He should not openly discuss that his "guru" provides a drug protocol to follow. Nothing good that can come from that.

Pretty serious shit in my opinion :naughty:

 

[jay_steel]

Thanks for chiming in Big Dave.

I want to add so much to what you have to say, that I don't really know where to start. But I agree with a lot of what you said.

I am really turned away from people in the sport as well. I enjoy making new friends in the gym, am very friendly towards other trainees, offer diet and training advice to others, but I have found that the people of the cult tend to be quite... different and not always in a good way. That is why I keep my interactions with other bodybuilders within the gym and online for the most part. And this hobby of mine is kept a secret. Even in the gym, it's funny how much gossip happens between the regulars... There are some good guys out there in this sport though.

I find it funny when people on social media networks talk about the gym as if it were a "go to war" effort, and that when they make any kind of changes to their body, they suddenly think it makes them superior and they hop in one competition and suddenly they are a dieting and training coach. I can't help but laugh at this. And they post progress pictures of themselves and their meals nonstop as if anyone actually gives a shit.

One thing that really turned me off about this whole "Cult" is it's ties with Gay 4 pay, hardcore/softcore porn, softcore nude photography, stripping, etc. I thought it was all a joke until I looked into it further and it was true. There was a respected poster on another forum that was an IFBB pro who recently turned to Wrestling and videos of his "cams" surfaced masturbating on camera, and he now doesn't even post there anymore LOL. I was shocked to see so many male/female bodybuilders who are in porn, how many women who do porn that compete in female bikini, and ifbb pros/top npc amateurs and even fitness athletes who have done cam shows / porn / softcore photography / stripping. It makes me want nothing to do with the "sport." It makes me wonder what else goes on... Luckily only the guys who are "in the know" truly know the depths of the dark side of the "sport".

You do realize its more then bodybuilders who do porn. With this logic every starving 19 years old going through college that opens up a cam site to pay tutiion is in the same boat. With your logic you should equally hate college as well. I can understand if your against porn its not for every one, which is cool i respect that but why not dislike the person not the sport. The sport doesnt force these people into porn. I know a few bodybuilders that are very successful and make GREAT money while competting nationally. So its not the sport that sucks people in, it may be the lack of desire to persue a career and ect, but who said jerking off on cam isnt a job. Shit I have heard of girls making 400$ a day off of cam shows.

I just tend not to judge anyone if i am not in their position. Porn is porn if they love doing it then thats great what shouldnt they be able to do things they love to do. Bodybuilding and fuck... If your gay for pay and at the end of the day your happy then more power to you. Not my thing, but its their life.

 

[BigNJ]

^^^ It's one thing to do porn cause you like doing it, and another if you do porn because you have to do it i.e. for the money.

 

[Cito33189]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZotwOhIAE0]Check out Nick Trigili 1 week before he invades the Atlantic States - YouTube[/ame]

Dude john looks like a creep

 

[lntense]

Goodluck to bostin getting a sponsorship now lol. I do respect the truth tho! But ya gotta make money somehow.

 

[kinglewy]

There is something creepy about an old man with an intense interest in young bodybuilders. He has apparently turned quite a few guys pro though including Kevin Levrone, so he must know what he's doing.