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Kaladryn. What if one was on 1-2 grams of test, Is 1 mg of Adex still too high? Does ester matter or mixing of esters.
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For the week before the blood test I was taking .125mg EOD of arimidex. I have since stopped all AI's and just using 250mgs test and saving the HCG till the end.
I have some proviron on the way. WOuld it be a good idea to add 25 or 50 mgs ED of Proviron for the last 3 weeks?
Kaladryn. What if one was on 1-2 grams of test, Is 1 mg of Adex still too high? Does ester matter or mixing of esters.
For the week before the blood test I was taking .125mg EOD of arimidex. I have since stopped all AI's and just using 250mgs test and saving the HCG till the end.
^^ True words right there! Having muscle is great, but a floppy schlong is not a sacrifice worth making.
IMO, 500iu of hCG is far too much. It's pretty certain that the bloat from this cycle is from the hCG. Over 350iu per inject, E2 really skyrockets. For me, it even rises enough to bloat me 3-4 days after the inject at 250iu. So, Adex is a good addition.
If you're using it from the start, I'd knock it WAY down to 150iu spaced no less than 4 days apart. You're maintaining, not trying to restart at this point.
4 or more days apart: With hCG, there's an initial rise in testicular activity, test output etc. the first day you inject, then again about 72 hours later. By injecting before that time, you kill the second spike.
Were it me, I'd keep test at 500, stop the hCG until the last 3 weeks of the cycle. Keep the Adex in at 500mg of Test with no hCG and your nuts will be fine. Test alone isn't that hard to recover from.
When you do restart the hCG 3 weeks out, I'd do no more than 250iu E4thD and supplement with some NAC or Glutathione to make sure there's no desensitizing from the hCG. Probably won't be at only 250iu, but it's cheap, so why not use NAC?
Just my .02...
I know it has been a while but I wanted to fill in how it went.
I added the proviron when it came in at 75mgs a day and by day 5 I had to quit. My hair was falling out almost overnight. I guess that one hits me pretty hard. I was mainly adding it for the help with libido but not worth that.
By week 10 everything straightened out. I felt the libido improve and the strength and pumps became incredible. Most say they don't feel the effects of test for 2-4 weeks. For me it was 10!!! Why would it be like that for me?
Crasy, so I only run it for 13 weeks. Only 3 weeks of feeling good. That's not good enough. Should I add Tren Ace to the next cycle or for the sake of hair maybe Deca?
What do you guys think?
Test and E2 compete. Normal ranges are 10-40 generally. If his test level is several times normal, and his E2 is normal, he is going to be suffering the effects of low E2.
Say you are on a gram of test, your E2 is going to be around 200. Take an AI at the full normal daily dose (any AI, they are all about the same), and that E2 level is going to be around 100. Now if you somehow took enough AI to get your E2 down to 30 (pretty much impossible, but for arguments sake lets say it was possible to lower E2 that much) you would be suffering the side effects of extremely low E2.
In this case, I'm asking this because getting E2 to 30 on a lot of test would take an immense amount of AI, and that wouldn't be healthy either. It would take at least 1mg/day adex, probably more, to get E2 that low on 500mg test.
Never looked at it that way, but it makes since. Its a very delicate system we play with here. Good info, thanks K.