FWIW, drunk people develop a "gut" because of alcoholic liver disease / cirrhosis / ascites. Unless you're talking about them just being fat in general, and that's because of bad dietary choices in general and being in caloric surplus.
I can / do diet on pasta, bread, tortillas (flour, oh no!), dairy products, cereals, whatever. Hell, I even eat pork rinds and light ranch daily on a diet. He's not wrong just because your beliefs don't line up with his. Do I think you need nutrition? Yes, of course. I also eat EVOO, eggs, beef, etc. I just don't think you have to "eat clean and only clean bro." Does this mean you can do the same on sugar and soda? Some can, most can't, and seems like a waste to me.
Hitting your macros is more important to body composition than anything else. If you need to eat 2500cals to lose fat and eat 3000 of clean foods, you're not going to drop anything.
As far as the cheat meal / refeed goes--the strategy I employ is this:
Do I need a refeed? If yes, am I going insane for junkish food? If yes, then I just have junkish food that nails the macros for one meal (or I save up two meals worth of cals/macros for the day and do that). Will it effect body composition at all?
Fuck no.
You take a hit on cheat meals as refeeds when you don't control it. That's the problem. Proper planning prevents this. Most restaurants have nutrition data for everything these days. If you want to go out to eat for your refeed / cheat meal, just pre-plan it and you'll be fine.
I didnt say to Calories in, Calories out doesnt matter, Read what i posted, Nowhere where i said that.
I say Food choice AFFECT BODY COMPOSITION, NOT JUST CALORIES IN CALORIES OUT.
Someone eating 2000 Calories with All carbs source without protein is going to look way different than someone who eat 2000 Calories mainly from protein source.
Also Food Affect you hormonaly. Eating 1 pound of Beef for lunch and Eating 200G of Carbs from pasta is not the same!
You will feel different from those 2 meals. Insulin play a role.
Eating a Too huge calories meal lower Testosterone, Go read on studies.
Mostly Carbs do that. The highest insulin is elevated the lower your testosterone is.
People will have diffeent body composition based on Their Caloric intake, Macros and Food choice.
I know bodybuilding guys that only eat meat and carbs. without fruits and veggies. Yes they are Built and lean, But they look like shit, Their Skin is fucked up. Not clear.
I used to believe it was all Calories in Calories out, with anything protein come from it.
You know the Body Cant produce Vitamin C Right? You need to eat it daily. Omega 3 and Omega 6 fats. The more you eat those the more your going to be healthy.
ITS NOT ALL ABOUT BODY COMPOSITION, IM TALKING OPTIMAL HEALTH HERE TOO.
If you dont give a fuck about Health thats your problem. But Having perfect skin, healthy teeth gums. Feeling like a millions bucks is worth it to me.
Drink your soda and eat your pasta if you want(If you think they provide nutrition), I stick with my fruits and veggies.