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12.5mg and 25mg I forgot what a difference

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So I went back down to 12.5mg on my mk for a few days until my order came in. Well not sleepy at all during the day during this time. Past 2 days went back to 25mg and boom can't hold my head up during the day. Is there really a big difference in terms of gains between the doses? If not I'm going back down to 12.5mg. It was nice not to feel sleepy throughout the day. I guess I was so use to being sleepy I forgot what it was like to be awake.

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So I went back down to 12.5mg on my mk for a few days until my order came in. Well not sleepy at all during the day during this time. Past 2 days went back to 25mg and boom can't hold my head up during the day. Is there really a big difference in terms of gains between the doses? If not I'm going back down to 12.5mg. It was nice not to feel sleepy throughout the day. I guess I was so use to being sleepy I forgot what it was like to be awake.

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If I recall correctly there was a study done I think on 10mg vs 50mg doses and GH serum was no major difference but IGF was maybe 30-40% higher.


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Try dosing it pre-w/o, MassiveG stated he does it this way and it has helped him a lot.
 

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I do 12.5 about 2 hours before bed and once I'm up in the morning, I feel refreshed and good to go.

I just turned 48 and this stuff is making a difference for my physique.
 
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I'm sure you could Google the study. Not much of a difference in the amount of hgh but a difference in your igf levels for sure when taking 25mg. But 12.5 mg is still highly beneficial. For most ppl the sides (in your case lethargy) tend to go away or subside over time. If they don't i would recommend staying at the dose you can manage.

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The first couple weeks I had insane hunger and different sleeping patterns, but after that it almost felt like I wasn't taking anything at all.

I thought it might be bunk, but in the beginning the hunger was just out of control.
 

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I do 12.5 about 2 hours before bed and once I'm up in the morning, I feel refreshed and good to go.

I just turned 48 and this stuff is making a difference for my physique.
wow bio I always thought you were in your early 30's from the last pics ive seen of you....looking great for 48
 

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Try dosing it pre-w/o, MassiveG stated he does it this way and it has helped him a lot.
It definitely makes a difference for me, as Friday night I missed my dose pre- work out and decided to take it prior to bed, and Saturday was pretty much a fog and fatigue.
I am starting a diet so I am going to clean out of mk677 for 2 weeks and then start getting to the deep end of the diet head first.
 

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I do 12.5 about 2 hours before bed and once I'm up in the morning, I feel refreshed and good to go.

I just turned 48 and this stuff is making a difference for my physique.
Bio i always wanted to ask this...

This was even before u were a mod.

Have you stolen victor martinez picture and using it as your profile avatar picture here on pro muscle ( not showing the face) ? lol

Its ok Bio. Dont worry. We all have to come clean one day or the other.


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Bio i always wanted to ask this...

This was even before u were a mod.

Have you stolen victor martinez picture and using it as your profile avatar picture here on pro muscle ( not showing the face) ? lol

Its ok Bio. Dont worry. We all have to come clean one day or the other.


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Not Victor, it's Flex Wheeler. It's from his last photo shoot...it's an iconic photo. Nothing to come clean about.
 
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Not Victor, it's Flex Wheeler. It's from his last photo shoot...it's an iconic photo. Nothing to come clean about.
lol I was joking Bio.

I thought it was actually u! I have never seen any of your pics other this this, how u look like etc. So you could be a gentleman of African origin and also a high level NPC, NABBA competitor from back in your prime with round big muscle bellies and nice insertions. Its very much a possibility. Obviously you cant see a lot in this little pic but a lot of bodybuilders of African origin CAN look that good in certain angles/poses like some of the big names, doesn't have to be a flex wheeler or martinez necessarily.

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So I went back down to 12.5mg on my mk for a few days until my order came in. Well not sleepy at all during the day during this time. Past 2 days went back to 25mg and boom can't hold my head up during the day. Is there really a big difference in terms of gains between the doses? If not I'm going back down to 12.5mg. It was nice not to feel sleepy throughout the day. I guess I was so use to being sleepy I forgot what it was like to be awake.

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lol I knew your were referencing MK/sleepiness even without the direct reference to either in the thread title.

Same thing happens to me. 12.5 is tolerable...but 25 knocks me into non-functional land. Tired dosing pre (as per MG's idea) and that does seem to help with the initial sleepiness wave, at least at 12.5.

But at 25 nothing seems to help.
 

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Are we talking about MK-677 here?
 

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Just stick to 12.5mg for now. After a couple of months increase the dose slowly, I usually increase 0.1ml (2.5mg of 25mg solution) a week at a time. 25mg is where I stop, it is plenty.
 

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The first couple weeks I had insane hunger and different sleeping patterns, but after that it almost felt like I wasn't taking anything at all.

I thought it might be bunk, but in the beginning the hunger was just out of control.
Glad to hear this. First night I took 12.5mg and literally could not sleep due to the hunger.
 

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Glad to hear this. First night I took 12.5mg and literally could not sleep due to the hunger.
yeah i started GH and MK around the same time and the first few nights my sleep was actually total shit, fast forward now im 2 weeks into GH and 1 week into MK and i'm falling asleep faster at night than i ever have. i'm still waking up to piss every 3 hours at this point, would be nice to get to the point of sleeping a full night through, seems to never happen for me.
 

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Good stuff. Been wanting to get on some mk very soon

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yeah i started GH and MK around the same time and the first few nights my sleep was actually total shit, fast forward now im 2 weeks into GH and 1 week into MK and i'm falling asleep faster at night than i ever have. i'm still waking up to piss every 3 hours at this point, would be nice to get to the point of sleeping a full night through, seems to never happen for me.

Have you tried cutting out fluids around 8pm?
 

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