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About to BLAST but RBC and H/H still elevated ??

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8 weeks ago i finished a 12 week cycle of 300mg test prop, 300mg dhb, 300mg primo.

post blood work my CBC values were

RBC - 6.34
Hemoglobin 16.6
Hematocrit 52

since than i took 8 weeks off to cruise and clean out only running 100mg test cypionate and 100mg primo. i figured this would be enough time for my CBC values to come back into some decent range before blasting again. all other blood work was already good.

I was planning on starting again next week, but my CBC values are still elevated - perhaps the blast kept stimulating the bone marrow to produce more RBC?

RBC - 6.55
Hemoglobin 17.3
Hematocrit 52

I typically donate at the end of a cycle, but i didn't want to for all negative reasons, as i already have low ferritin from previous donations.

can i jump back on and maybe donate mid way or not at all? I planned to blast 750test/600masteron/300dhb again for 12 weeks.
how high can these numbers go before one should just donate, and take iron pills to combat low ferritin?
 

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RBCs live around 4 months. Also not sure what ester the primo was, but regardless hormones were in your system for a while after last pin. So your RBCs might not have start going down until about 4 weeks ago, but that’s a guess.
 

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RBCs live around 4 months. Also not sure what ester the primo was, but regardless hormones were in your system for a while after last pin. So your RBCs might not have start going down until about 4 weeks ago, but that’s a guess.
Yah i have been explained that by Palumbo before, and if that's the case i guess jump back on slowly and dump mid way?
 

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This is just my opinion but that’s really not that bad. I sit around 55 HCT and I feel great. If i drop dosage way down for a half a year it will go down to 50-51 but my endurance and energy level suffers.
 

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unless you have an underlying clotting disorder your values are not "high"

hydrate
do cardio
address sleep apnea if its an issue
donate intelligently 3 maybe 4x per year
 

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unless you have an underlying clotting disorder your values are not "high"

hydrate
do cardio
address sleep apnea if its an issue
donate intelligently 3 maybe 4x per year
no conditions, just staying on top of markers that's all. my platelets are always low too 224 now.
 

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cardio is magical for H/H
i do cardio 3-4 times a week, but im thinking its gotta be hiit cardio for that? the low intensity doesn't really do much for H/H does it? i do 20-30 mins of liss 3-4 times a week. might have to kick up the pace.
 

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i do cardio 3-4 times a week, but im thinking its gotta be hiit cardio for that? the low intensity doesn't really do much for H/H does it? i do 20-30 mins of liss 3-4 times a week. might have to kick up the pace.
low intensity cardio 4-5 days per week at 25-30mins a clip drops me a good 2 point on my hemoglobin. i was 16.1 yesterday and am ON and i'm old so thats pretty damn good. i have had my H/H as high as 20/61 and still didn't really notice any effects, though long term that would definitely thicken the heart having to pump ketchup
 

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just curious when do Doctors (that don't over-react) typically send someone for a phlebotomy? what are their upper limits for these kinds of numbers.
 

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just curious when do Doctors (that don't over-react) typically send someone for a phlebotomy? what are their upper limits for these kinds of numbers.
Hemoglobin up around 20 and hematorcrit around 60 is when they really would get concerned I think. Mine was up there, but even then my doctor didnt tell me to get a phlebotomy. He just told me to stop taking steroids.
 

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my physician likes me to stay under 52 on TRT
In Europe they have higher cut offs. 50-51 I notice performance decrease with endurance. I used to follow American doctors and drove myself crazy trying to keep it low.
 

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In Europe they have higher cut offs. 50-51 I notice performance decrease with endurance. I used to follow American doctors and drove myself crazy trying to keep it low.
if i do cardio consistently i have no problem
 

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8 weeks ago i finished a 12 week cycle of 300mg test prop, 300mg dhb, 300mg primo.

post blood work my CBC values were

RBC - 6.34
Hemoglobin 16.6
Hematocrit 52

since than i took 8 weeks off to cruise and clean out only running 100mg test cypionate and 100mg primo. i figured this would be enough time for my CBC values to come back into some decent range before blasting again. all other blood work was already good.

I was planning on starting again next week, but my CBC values are still elevated - perhaps the blast kept stimulating the bone marrow to produce more RBC?

RBC - 6.55
Hemoglobin 17.3
Hematocrit 52

I typically donate at the end of a cycle, but i didn't want to for all negative reasons, as i already have low ferritin from previous donations.

can i jump back on and maybe donate mid way or not at all? I planned to blast 750test/600masteron/300dhb again for 12 weeks.
how high can these numbers go before one should just donate, and take iron pills to combat low ferritin?
81 mg of aspirin at night will lower RBC and hemoglobin…. A lot more things cause high RBC then bone marrow… If you google it tons of information comes up
 

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