Are AS Required?

[StudInTraining]

Are AAS Required?

If you want to build your body to competition level, are AAS required?

 

[james001]

I guess that all depends on the level of competition you want to compete in.

 

[Tom]

level of competition

maybe you could compete on a local level and crack the top 5 but anything more than that would be a lost cause. on a national and professional level they are beyond steroids alone often incorporating growth hormone, peptides and possibly even myostatin blockers.

 

[ALLEX]

I believe you could do it using pro-hormones, GH, IGF, insulin, supplements, lots of food and myo-029...

 

[RV63T]

no contribution

 

[speedbacker]

I believe you could do it using pro-hormones, GH, IGF, insulin, supplements, lots of food and myo-029...

lol!

 

[ALLEX]

isnt that mayo-29 very untested and a danger to use.

Nobody really knows what this drug will do...

 

[STEVO 47]

If you want to build your body to competition level, are AS required?

No. Hardwork, dedication and and the love for the sport.
Oh and Good genes too. man, it's a whole lot more to it
then thinking if I want to compete I need to juice up. I
know guys who have been juicing for years and wouldn't
even come close to comp level. Diet is another thing too
age, years of training and weight fat % need to be addressed
before I'd recommend anything

 

[NPCLight]

I've known many peope who use gear, and very few look like competitive bodybuilders. At the same time, almost all of them eat like shit, and socialize more than they train in the gym. Steroids are only a small part of the equation.

I agree til the last sentence, at a NATIONAL Level they are the ENTIRE equation. THe whole talk backstage is who's on what and how much are they taking...

I just won an OPEN welterweight National Qua. EVERYBODY backstage was talking about "hey see that guy over there, he used tren, prop, primo, clen, winni, growth and IGF-1 for this show...." He worked out at the same gym as the guy that said this and would TELL EVERYBODY his stack. IMO a.) is stupid. b.) he took 4th in his class with over a 3000$$ cutting cycle which is sad.... This is where I WILL agree with the genetics card. But DRUGS are the key....period 95% of the time.

 

[Jarconis]

in the end, the genetically blessed will eventually find their way to the top

 

[STEVO 47]

But DRUGS are the key....period 95% of the time.

Ok, . genes are the key are far as I'm conserned. drugs are an added bonus.

 

[debo22]

depends on your genetics. good ones could get you to the national level. to enter the ifbb id say you will have to use drugs at some point.

 

[ALLEX]

Mike Quinn said in an interview that Darrem Charles got his pro card clean.

 

[G.E.R.M]

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Nobody really knows what this drug will do...

i know someone that knows..

unfortunately he is in the hospital..with a myriad of unsolvable issues at this point..

money can bring lots of things into your life.. unfortunaltely some of them can hurt you bad or end you life.

be careful..

 

[StudInTraining]

No. Hardwork, dedication and and the love for the sport.
Oh and Good genes too. man, it's a whole lot more to it
then thinking if I want to compete I need to juice up. I
know guys who have been juicing for years and wouldn't
even come close to comp level. Diet is another thing too
age, years of training and weight fat % need to be addressed
before I'd recommend anything

Bump

 

[Moen]

You are never going to be big on your natural testosterone levels

That's like saying you can win the indy 500 with your honda accord

 

[Moen]

And 'people who juice heavily yet look like shit', is a very shitty argument to state the lesser importance of drugs, no offense

 

[speedbacker]

i know someone that knows..

unfortunately he is in the hospital..with a myriad of unsolvable issues at this point..

money can bring lots of things into your life.. unfortunaltely some of them can hurt you bad or end you life.

be careful..

Shit, dude, can you go into anymore detail?

 

[G.E.R.M]

.

i really cannot go into detail.. i will just say he was using an assload of other shit, mostly experimental and when this was added, his house of cards fell down..

now i dont know if what he had was real or not, but i do know everything else he was using was authentic.

he wasnt a bb but a WSM competitor and not a very prominent one at that..

shame really..

 

[VNV]

You are never going to be big on your natural testosterone levels

That's like saying you can win the indy 500 with your honda accord

Very true.