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can anyone help me ....

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first of all let me tell you im 5 9.....284 lbs.....15%bf.......i have used gear since the early 90s and never had any blood pressure problems until today....i woke up this morning with a headache so bad it almost made me sick to my stomach.....i had my bp checked and it was 170/100......i started my current cycle last week of oral turnibol @ 60 ed......test cyp @875 wk.........eq @ 600 wk.....my question is .....is it safe to still work out.....i know the injects have not had time to stabilize yet......this is my first cycle with turnibol and am wondering if that could be the problem......i am also using .5 armidex daily....my diet is clean and use no stimulants.....thank you
 
I would listen to your body when it comes to your health. Is your BP usually high or just when your on cycle?
 
barely goes up when i cycle....ive ran higher cycles b4 with no poblems
 
first of all let me tell you im 5 9.....284 lbs.....15%bf.......i have used gear since the early 90s and never had any blood pressure problems until today....i woke up this morning with a headache so bad it almost made me sick to my stomach.....i had my bp checked and it was 170/100......i started my current cycle last week of oral turnibol @ 60 ed......test cyp @875 wk.........eq @ 600 wk.....my question is .....is it safe to still work out.....i know the injects have not had time to stabilize yet......this is my first cycle with turnibol and am wondering if that could be the problem......i am also using .5 armidex daily....my diet is clean and use no stimulants.....thank you

I agree with STI

Another thing is that you just started this cycle last week, Im not sure if the gear has even kicked in yet (except the oral)..or maybe just beginning.

There might be another underlying condition, if I were you id scrap the cycle and go in for a full physical. If your BP is high right now..you could have other problems 10 weeks into your cycle...better safe than sorry.

Good luck.
 
I agree with STI

Another thing is that you just started this cycle last week, Im not sure if the gear has even kicked in yet (except the oral)..or maybe just beginning.

There might be another underlying condition, if I were you id scrap the cycle and go in for a full physical. If your BP is high right now..you could have other problems 10 weeks into your cycle...better safe than sorry.

Good luck.

I agree, you need to get a blood test and full physical.

The T bol is not estrogenic, and esp this early in the game, I would say that your primary culprit is something chronic rather that acute.
 
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first of all let me tell you im 5 9.....284 lbs.....15%bf.......i have used gear since the early 90s and never had any blood pressure problems until today....i woke up this morning with a headache so bad it almost made me sick to my stomach.....i had my bp checked and it was 170/100......i started my current cycle last week of oral turnibol @ 60 ed......test cyp @875 wk.........eq @ 600 wk.....my question is .....is it safe to still work out.....i know the injects have not had time to stabilize yet......this is my first cycle with turnibol and am wondering if that could be the problem......i am also using .5 armidex daily....my diet is clean and use no stimulants.....thank you

5-9 284? 15%? You are killing yourself..........you need to lose 50 pounds. If not, then kidneys..........then eyesight........then stroke.
 
5-9 284? 15%? You are killing yourself..........you need to lose 50 pounds. If not, then kidneys..........then eyesight........then stroke.

Get leaner like Phil Hernon Said.

You would be better at 235-240 extremly lean then your current weight.
 
All of my aunts and uncles were told to cut their sodium when they had bp trouble. How have you been eating? You might consider keeping a log of what you eat daily in case the doc asks.
 
tbol,,,search other boards,,,notorious for headaches and bp issues at higher dose,,,like above 40mg will do that
 
thanks for all the advice.....i have reduced my dose of ot to 40mg and the headaches have stopped......i have also had my bp checked 2x aday for the last three days.....all good.....today was my heaviest workout of the week - after i had my bp checked and it was153/90
 
thanks for all the advice.....i have reduced my dose of ot to 40mg and the headaches have stopped......i have also had my bp checked 2x aday for the last three days.....all good.....today was my heaviest workout of the week - after i had my bp checked and it was153/90

Well, it sounds like you might have found the culprit. You BP though is still dangerously high if it stays that way for a long time. If I were you I would drop the tbol completely and throw it in the trash. Go off of it completely and see what happens to your BP and sideeffects within 48 hours. I dont see why you incist on using something that is giving you dangerous side effects when there are other things you are using now that will get you the results you need.
 

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