CONTEST PREP QUESTION

[GIXXER130]

Im taking test prop for contest prep along with other things and was wondering if I should drop it before the show.Iam 23 days out now and just curious if it will make me retain water.Laong with the test im taking winny,masteron, tren ace clen/t3 and hgh.im gonna drop the hgh two weeks out.

 

[Big Bapper]

I would drop everything 2 week out exept the winny, tren and mast. Use these till the day of the show.

 

[crystalline]

take winny all the way try to get soma halo tabs for the last week i would still take mastron up untill 1 week out

 

[keepittous]

I would drop everything 2 week out exept the winny, tren and mast. Use these till the day of the show.

I agree with Big Bapper.....!!!! stay on the t-3 and clen as well

 

[GIXXER130]

So drop the test prop and hgh 2 weeks out and stay on the tren ace winny masteron and clen/t3 up to the show.Just one question.Ill be ok since im on other aas as far as not having to pct correct?Just dont wanna get all fucked up dropping the test out.

 

[chris250]

Im going with different program here than everyone else...I believe stay on the prop until a couple of days out...along with everything else...T3 and Clen should be cycled down the week of the show...it makes it easier to carb up...As long as your anti-E's are good, and you do your water right you shouldnt hold any...

chris

 

[bigfatandugly]

Im going with different program here than everyone else...I believe stay on the prop until a couple of days out...along with everything else...T3 and Clen should be cycled down the week of the show...it makes it easier to carb up...As long as your anti-E's are good, and you do your water right you shouldnt hold any...

chris

agreed...

if it aint broke dont fix it.


BFU

 

[BCGuy]

Same here, I'll just go by how I look, if I am dry a week or two out I wont drop anything. Clen I and most fat burners I do stop taking the last week though with T3 being the exception.

 

[hardkor]

Cut the gear out

If you don't want to hold water, cut ALL your AAS out before a show. Stay on your anti's and fat burners tho. AAS puts a lot of stress on your kidneys which in turn makes the body hold much more water. When you cut the fast acting gear out one week out, you'll start drying up without even manipulating anything else. That's how they did it 10-20 years ago and the guys were much more ripped then IMO. But if you want to keep in till the day of the show, then better know your diuretics. Good luck!

 

[BCGuy]

It a very individual thing, some retain water alot more than others do. I have seen guys drop everything before a show when they were looking spot on and the day of the show is a different story. Some can get away wit hit while others may not be able to.

 

[chris250]

Hardkor - Good point ..I agree with you to some degree...But everyone is different...

chris

 

[chris250]

Km2000- I would like to hear what you have to say on this subject...

chris

 

[km2000]

If you don't want to hold water, cut ALL your AAS out before a show. Stay on your anti's and fat burners tho. AAS puts a lot of stress on your kidneys which in turn makes the body hold much more water. When you cut the fast acting gear out one week out, you'll start drying up without even manipulating anything else. That's how they did it 10-20 years ago and the guys were much more ripped then IMO. But if you want to keep in till the day of the show, then better know your diuretics. Good luck!

aas dose not always put stress on the kidneys... if it does, i have never heard of it being directly linked to holding water?

when you cut any gear out especially fast acting gear you will experience a major hormone imbalance (bad thing) this is why so many of you guys always fuck it up! you think that by cutting your gear out you will look better? why do you take the gear in the first place then?

shorter esters will make the body hold almost no water, and the wter it holds is in the muscle! (where you want it)

who did it like this 10-20 years ago?


the easiest way for us to help you bro is for you to post a pic and some more stats... this will eliminate a lot of confusion

what i would do

take everything up to the show or till you fly out for it, any orals you have take with you and take till the day you step on stage...any inj. gear shoot in your glutes 10 days out and only your glutes, last thing you need it a large bump on your shoulder lookin like a bad synthol job!

aldactone is the best of dieretics imo, dyazide next... they both make it very easy to manipulate water and are safe!

 

[wakejump4me]

good post

wake

 

[hardkor]

Who did this 10-20 yrs ago?

There are still ALOT of BB's out there that STILL cut their gear out 1-2 weeks out before a show. I won't give names but I know guys who have worked with "contest prep gurus" such as Rhambod, and Prince, and they were advised to do the same.

And if you talk to bb's who competed back in the 90's pretty much all of them cut their gear out too. I train at a popular gym in LA where there are a lot of retired bb's and they don't understand why the guys these days stay "on" the gear to the day of the show either. Do any of you remember the Underground BB video from the 90's with Tom Platz? He had Coleman, Dillet, Cormier, Priest, Baker, and Newman on it and he asked them all how far out they cut their gear.....1-2 weeks.

Here's something else to think about. Why is it that the most shredded bb's nowadays are the ones that compete naturally? I'm not talking about the grainy hard look of a Branch Warren, but the look of a Hamdullah Aykutlu where the muscles are all striated and dry looking? You rarely see that type of look anymore in "non-tested" shows....hhhhmmm, I wonder why. The only bb recently to obtain that look is Phil Heath.

 

[km2000]

There are still ALOT of BB's out there that STILL cut their gear out 1-2 weeks out before a show. I won't give names but I know guys who have worked with "contest prep gurus" such as Rhambod, and Prince, and they were advised to do the same.

And if you talk to bb's who competed back in the 90's pretty much all of them cut their gear out too. I train at a popular gym in LA where there are a lot of retired bb's and they don't understand why the guys these days stay "on" the gear to the day of the show either. Do any of you remember the Underground BB video from the 90's with Tom Platz? He had Coleman, Dillet, Cormier, Priest, Baker, and Newman on it and he asked them all how far out they cut their gear.....1-2 weeks.

Here's something else to think about. Why is it that the most shredded bb's nowadays are the ones that compete naturally? I'm not talking about the grainy hard look of a Branch Warren, but the look of a Hamdullah Aykutlu where the muscles are all striated and dry looking? You rarely see that type of look anymore in "non-tested" shows....hhhhmmm, I wonder why. The only bb recently to obtain that look is Phil Heath.

you group a lot of bodybuilders together by saying "those that competed in the 90's" its funny there is always someone that seems to have the secret to drying out or the secret why the bodybuilders of old were better than those of today, and these same people are friends with a lot of pros and seem to have intimate knowledge on their drug use....

like i said befor, cutting your gear out 2 weeks out of a show is stupid! lets think, lets say you are at the end of your cycle of 16 weeks, you wait 2 weeks only taking lets say adex, what will you look like? answer your body will go through a major hormone imbalance, you will prob get depressed, weaker in the gym, smooth looking, flat and "watery".... this still dosent make sense to me?

most of the drugs used for contest prep are short esters and will lend little in water retention. shit i think masteron is supposed to dry you out! why would you want to cut these out? there is a simple soution a mild dieretic! your bodys water from aas is not immune to the water shedding capibilities of a dieretic! it dosent know the difference! this process can be done without a dieretic if you know how to manipulate sodium levels and load carbs correctly...

and now on to your last statement of" natural bodybuilders being more shredded than aas users" i am not usually this blunt, but that i the stupidest bunch of bullshit i have ever heard!.... that grainey hard look branch and dorian are famous for is low bf and low water(dry) like the statment dry as a bone...... have you never seen dexter jackson, or the glutes and hams on ronnie coleman? i would put a contest pic of dexter next to any natural and say that again....

 

[VNV]

you group a lot of bodybuilders together by saying "those that competed in the 90's" its funny there is always someone that seems to have the secret to drying out or the secret why the bodybuilders of old were better than those of today, and these same people are friends with a lot of pros and seem to have intimate knowledge on their drug use....

like i said befor, cutting your gear out 2 weeks out of a show is stupid! lets think, lets say you are at the end of your cycle of 16 weeks, you wait 2 weeks only taking lets say adex, what will you look like? answer your body will go through a major hormone imbalance, you will prob get depressed, weaker in the gym, smooth looking, flat and "watery".... this still dosent make sense to me?

most of the drugs used for contest prep are short esters and will lend little in water retention. shit i think masteron is supposed to dry you out! why would you want to cut these out? there is a simple soution a mild dieretic! your bodys water from aas is not immune to the water shedding capibilities of a dieretic! it dosent know the difference! this process can be done without a dieretic if you know how to manipulate sodium levels and load carbs correctly...

and now on to your last statement of" natural bodybuilders being more shredded than aas users" i am not usually this blunt, but that i the stupidest bunch of bullshit i have ever heard!.... that grainey hard look branch and dorian are famous for is low bf and low water(dry) like the statment dry as a bone...... have you never seen dexter jackson, or the glutes and hams on ronnie coleman? i would put a contest pic of dexter next to any natural and say that again....

What is this "hormone imbalance" you keep speaking of? Tell me please precisely what hormones you're referring to and what imbalances exist.

When you drop your gear, the blood levels of active juice steadily go down (assuming you've been taking them for months at approximately the same dose). Especially if you're taking an anti-estrogen like adex, there's no "imbalance." You just have lower plasma concentrations--which will still be superhuman.

 

[Str8jacked]

you group a lot of bodybuilders together by saying "those that competed in the 90's" its funny there is always someone that seems to have the secret to drying out or the secret why the bodybuilders of old were better than those of today, and these same people are friends with a lot of pros and seem to have intimate knowledge on their drug use....

like i said befor, cutting your gear out 2 weeks out of a show is stupid! lets think, lets say you are at the end of your cycle of 16 weeks, you wait 2 weeks only taking lets say adex, what will you look like? answer your body will go through a major hormone imbalance, you will prob get depressed, weaker in the gym, smooth looking, flat and "watery".... this still dosent make sense to me?

most of the drugs used for contest prep are short esters and will lend little in water retention. shit i think masteron is supposed to dry you out! why would you want to cut these out? there is a simple soution a mild dieretic! your bodys water from aas is not immune to the water shedding capibilities of a dieretic! it dosent know the difference! this process can be done without a dieretic if you know how to manipulate sodium levels and load carbs correctly...

and now on to your last statement of" natural bodybuilders being more shredded than aas users" i am not usually this blunt, but that i the stupidest bunch of bullshit i have ever heard!.... that grainey hard look branch and dorian are famous for is low bf and low water(dry) like the statment dry as a bone...... have you never seen dexter jackson, or the glutes and hams on ronnie coleman? i would put a contest pic of dexter next to any natural and say that again....

DAM! Things are getting so hot here I'll think Ill stick around and skip The UFC 2nite!!! Don't let up now bros....lets get it on, come on!

 

[kidstuff]

look at this natural guy

 

[kidstuff]

i wonder what magnum has to say about this.

also, hardkore... in your opinion how close to the show can you stay on oral AAS?