cycle malfunction

doorstop · May 25, 2009

love this board.did 2nd cycle of test 600 mg/w 300mg deca and 40mg dbol did that for 12 weeks, dbol only 4, eating any kind of food i saw,my blood pressure went so high causing splitting headache and got puffy nipples so stopped deca dropped back test to 250mg week for 4 more weeks then stopped all together. had been taking 1 mg adex 20mg nolva and 25mg proviron from week 11 through 14, then only 1mg adex after and 50mg clomid,nips got worse so switched 2.5 mg letro a day, ran that for 8 weeks, everytime i tried to come off nipples would flare up. finally got pramipexole started taking .25mg twice a day, quit letro, then after 3 day of nothing but prami had little flare up but no sensitivity took .5mg letro with prami work good for me dont know how to come off everything but i'm cool right now. i should of had money for e and prolactin tests but i am guessing at everything. would take more aas if was not so scared of gyno

whiteknucks · May 26, 2009

what was your first cycle....that second cycle sure did have a lot of different compounds.....kinda hard to tell what does what that way.

add 1 at a time and dont take something you dont need

doorstop · May 26, 2009

first cycle was 400mg test wk for 8 weeks then 500 for 12 more. 50 mg a day adrol for 4 weeks (6-10) didnt start letro until 10 weeks in, ran it til finished stopped then started clomid and tribulas for a month then took 1 month off then started 2nd cycle.
36 yo
5'7"-176

was 157# when first started then got up to 183, then stopped drop back to 170, started again blew up to 191 then the problems started

whiteknucks · May 26, 2009

doorstop said:
first cycle was 400mg test wk for 8 weeks then 500 for 12 more. 50 mg a day adrol for 4 weeks (6-10) didnt start letro until 10 weeks in, ran it til finished stopped then started clomid and tribulas for a month then took 1 month off then started 2nd cycle.
36 yo
5'7"-176

was 157# when first started then got up to 183, then stopped drop back to 170, started again blew up to 191 then the problems started

deca makes my blood pressure go up like that....i would stick with what works.

those are some very impressive gains. dont use the nolva unless u get gyno. and leave out all the other stuff too. stick with test and drol. also only add 1 thing at a time so you can see how it works.

doorstop · May 27, 2009

thanks whiteknucks for the help am gonna stick with test and drol. what do you think about starting another cycle when i still have puffiness in nipples, should i wait until it goes down more, or just say it is what it is and keep going

h8tr3d · May 27, 2009

what do you think was causing the puffyness??

doorstop · May 27, 2009

dont know, they went down when i stop deca then slowly started getting worse about a month after i stop cycle on 3-24-09. been on letro and can control flare up but already been on to long switched to pramipexol 4 days ago because i believe its prolactin induced but do not know. tired of sore joints and no sex drive have to stop letro

whiteknucks · May 27, 2009

puffiness doesnt necessarily mean its gyno....but u do need to find out how each thing affects you before going any further.

if something causes you to take another drug to counteract the sides, then do away with it and find what works good for you.

oldfella · May 27, 2009

I would say that you sabotaged your own efforts by not controlling your diet. Using those compounds and eating like a pig will be a sure fire recipe for problems. Like sodium intake being too high from all the crap you were eating. When cycling you need to maintain a clean diet. Watch your sodium so it does not get too high and limit saturated fats to a minimum. You can eat plenty but keep it clean. You said you ate anything in sight so I am assumong you were eating crap as well as good food. So your diet was more than likely the cause of your problems and possibly not enough water intake also.

doorstop · May 27, 2009

thanks old fella and whiteknucks. i cleaned my diet up when my bp went up and it made me feel 100% better. then i low dosed to finish out cycle, ever since then have had the nipple issue driving me crazy, its been a fight against them for a few months now

notsobig32 · May 27, 2009

oldfella said:
I would say that you sabotaged your own efforts by not controlling your diet. Using those compounds and eating like a pig will be a sure fire recipe for problems. Like sodium intake being too high from all the crap you were eating. When cycling you need to maintain a clean diet. Watch your sodium so it does not get too high and limit saturated fats to a minimum. You can eat plenty but keep it clean. You said you ate anything in sight so I am assumong you were eating crap as well as good food. So your diet was more than likely the cause of your problems and possibly not enough water intake also.

Wordss of wisdom......welcome back OF. Hope everything is going well inyour personal life.

Eating mcdonalds every day, taking test, deca, dbol and the alphabet soup you were using for pct is going to adversely affect your blood pressure. If you throw on top of that taking in an excessive amount of caffeeine(i am surmising here) the effect just gets exacerbated. There are LOTS of natural remedies for controlling blood pressure, you may want to look into them and if you are getting prolactin related sides, you are going to want to purchase some cabergoline(at least it works for me).

doorstop · May 27, 2009

ok thanks youguys, i was taking in lots of caffeine too. gave me killer headache.started feeling better when eating clean, then came off cycle. then nipple flare up and been like that for 2 months. is that normal? can control with letro but cant come off. would youguys start again or wait until you can come off eveything?

bf5%yes · May 28, 2009

Why such a high dose? 2nd cycle and your already over 1gram gear per week, seems like a waste. Try milking your gains from a little to more as needed. That should also help with the sides.