Deca/Trest Mental Sides mitigated with DHT?

[hanquin]

I've read about deca having negative effects on people's moods and although I've run it once or twice years ago, I don't recall any such effects. Now, that is not to say I didn't experience any because I am prone to depression anyway, I just wanted to get more opinions on what others think because I am quite a bit older now, and I am not about to sacrifice my mental health to gain a few lbs. As of right now, it's between deca or trest and both being 19 nors, I figure that if one can cause sides, the other is likely to as well (and forget tren, for me that is a recipe for disaster). I've also read that running a dht alongside a 19 nor can lower any such mental sides as well. So, I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts or or experience with running either some var or proviron alongside deca or trest and if there was any success in combatting any such sides.

 

[Doitagain]

Being both 19-Nortestosterone derivates doesn't mean they share the same effects. Speaking of mood, they couldn't be more different, Trest is literally an antidepressant anabolic for most, myself included.

 

[nothuman]

Being both 19-Nortestosterone derivates doesn't mean they share the same effects. Speaking of mood, they couldn't be more different, Trest is literally an antidepressant anabolic for most, myself included.

Me too. I have been back on trest for a little over two weeks at 10mg per day and definitely have improved mood and libido in addition to the awesome strength and size gains. I haven't used nandrolone in so long that I don't even remember how it made me feel.

 

[Doitagain]

Me too. I have been back on trest for a little over two weeks at 10mg per day and definitely have improved mood and libido in addition to the awesome strength and size gains. I haven't used nandrolone in so long that I don't even remember how it made me feel.

Yep, the strength and size gain itself is galvanizing, but the effect on mood, libido and general confident attitude (without Tren's "cockiness") is amazing.

 

[hanquin]

Me too. I have been back on trest for a little over two weeks at 10mg per day and definitely have improved mood and libido in addition to the awesome strength and size gains. I haven't used nandrolone in so long that I don't even remember how it made me feel.

Wow. 10mg/day.That's interesting, and how long do you run trest at that does? Seems like you could run that indefintiely.

 

[iron lifter]

what would be the max dosage and duration you would run ment at?

 

[hevi-head]

Trest at just 7.5-10 mg a day makes me feel amazing. I’ve questioned it and stopped and started it but it’s the same every time. As I’ve gotten older I can be a little more anxious but the trest pretty much eliminates it. I wake up in a great mood and life in general just seems better all around. Not to mention the increased libido and enhanced orgasms. Euphoric is kind of a strong word but damn it’s close. 7.5 is just 15 on a 1/2 cc slin pin so you can stick it just about anywhere. I always pin it solo ED even if I’m doing another shot that day.

 

[juggy38]

Trest= mood boost in a bottle. Energy, assertiveness, less “worry”

Deca= apathy. I feel “bla”….i tske a lot of naps and not much drive to do anything. Which is good at times, I’m always wound the fuck up with school/work and the old lady. I just want to eat and sleep.

Tren= for me, tren is literally an unsafe compound. At 250mg+, I become a fucking headcase. Crying spells, I wish all humans didn’t exist, i am cold and withdrawn.

Masteron+deca is very good middle ground mentally for me. I feel good.

Trest+masteron the libido is annoying. I almost never watch porn. Trest+mast, my computer search history would scare many lol.

 

[hevi-head]

Trest= mood boost in a bottle. Energy, assertiveness, less “worry”

Deca= apathy. I feel “bla”….i tske a lot of naps and not much drive to do anything. Which is good at times, I’m always wound the fuck up with school/work and the old lady. I just want to eat and sleep.

Tren= for me, tren is literally an unsafe compound. At 250mg+, I become a fucking headcase. Crying spells, I wish all humans didn’t exist, i am cold and withdrawn.

Masteron+deca is very good middle ground mentally for me. I feel good.

Trest+masteron the libido is annoying. I almost never watch porn. Trest+mast, my computer search history would scare many lol.

I forgot to mention the energy from trest. My sleep seems to suffer from it a bit but I’m never really tired from it. I can normally easily take a nap in my car during lunch at work but haven’t been lately at all. I’ve even cut out the little caffeine jolt after work on my way to the gym.

 

[cmryan]

Trest= mood boost in a bottle. Energy, assertiveness, less “worry”

Deca= apathy. I feel “bla”….i tske a lot of naps and not much drive to do anything. Which is good at times, I’m always wound the fuck up with school/work and the old lady. I just want to eat and sleep.

Tren= for me, tren is literally an unsafe compound. At 250mg+, I become a fucking headcase. Crying spells, I wish all humans didn’t exist, i am cold and withdrawn.

Masteron+deca is very good middle ground mentally for me. I feel good.

Trest+masteron the libido is annoying. I almost never watch porn. Trest+mast, my computer search history would scare many lol.

Is TRT levels of test included in any/all of these?

 

[hanquin]

I forgot to mention the energy from trest. My sleep seems to suffer from it a bit but I’m never really tired from it. I can normally easily take a nap in my car during lunch at work but haven’t been lately at all. I’ve even cut out the little caffeine jolt after work on my way to the gym.

So if deca=
But adding dht =
and trest satndalone =
I wonder how a test/deca/DHT/smidgen of trest might be?
At that dose - adding the trest may not be for gains, necessarily but maybe more for emotional balance? Now, this is strictly hypothetical just for the sake of conversation as I am too old to turn my body into a science experiment but curious at the same time.

 

[hevi-head]

So if deca=
But adding dht =
and trest satndalone =
I wonder how a test/deca/DHT/smidgen of trest might be?
At that dose - adding the trest may not be for gains, necessarily but maybe more for emotional balance? Now, this is strictly hypothetical just for the sake of conversation as I am too old to turn my body into a science experiment but curious at the same time.

I’m guessing it would help but you never know til you try. Probably an individual thing too. Some claim they don’t really feel trest at all

 

[goback2013]

I’m guessing it would help but you never know til you try. Probably an individual thing too. Some claim they don’t really feel trest at all

Only time I experienced uncontrollable libido with trest is when I brewed my own.
Trest premixed by variouss sponsors all felt like deca

 

[Doitagain]

Tren= for me, tren is literally an unsafe compound. I wish all humans didn’t exist

Errr...wait...you mean that's not normal regardless of Tren?

 

[Doitagain]

Some claim they don’t really feel trest at all

Bunk or mislabelled. Far from uncommon.

 

[Mufasa123]

No experience with trest but masteron with deca is nice. I'm fine with just test/deca but Mast definitely makes me feel better and I like it even at 200mg a week. Decent for tren as well but different reasons (winstrol makes me feel meh when I run it with tren so not all dhts are equal here - also winstrol contributes to size, strength, aesthetics and performance so). My doses are usually 200-400 weekly. I've run it higher but get what I want from this range and saw no added benefit above it.

Test/primo is a blah feeling for me and I'll also toss in Mast too and it makes a huge difference in energy and positivity plus sex drive so I don't use it only with 19 Nors but more when I want/need the effect.

At the end of the day outside of it enhancing a dosage of test via SHBG I don't find it useful for much outside of feel and aesthetics. Like an estfified proviron. I don't rate it at all as an anabolic or performance compound. It plays a "side order" role for me. I guess it will probably do something if you have no experience or take enough but I like it for what it is just fine. How it works in my body anyway.

 

[Doitagain]

No experience with trest but masteron with deca is nice. I'm fine with just test/deca but Mast definitely makes me feel better and I like it even at 200mg a week. Decent for tren as well but different reasons (winstrol makes me feel meh when I run it with tren so not all dhts are equal here - also winstrol contributes to size, strength, aesthetics and performance so). My doses are usually 200-400 weekly. I've run it higher but get what I want from this range and saw no added benefit above it.

Test/primo is a blah feeling for me and I'll also toss in Mast too and it makes a huge difference in energy and positivity plus sex drive so I don't use it only with 19 Nors but more when I want/need the effect.

At the end of the day outside of it enhancing a dosage of test via SHBG I don't find it useful for much outside of feel and aesthetics. Like an estfified proviron. I don't rate it at all as an anabolic or performance compound. It plays a "side order" role for me. I guess it will probably do something if you have no experience or take enough but I like it for what it is just fine. How it works in my body anyway.

Could you be more detailed about the"meh" feeling on Winstrol? Does it happen specifically when used alongside Tren?
I always found it pretty neutral on general wellbeing, if anything maybe a slight calming effect.

 

[nothuman]

Bunk or mislabelled. Far from uncommon.

Yea even 5mg per day of trest and I feel something. My heart rate goes up quite a bit and I'll add a small amount of lbs. It's not profound but it's absolutely noticeable.

 

[Doitagain]

Yea even 5mg per day of trest and I feel something. My heart rate goes up quite a bit and I'll add a small amount of lbs. It's not profound but it's absolutely noticeable.

To those who say it didn't do anything even at high doses...Wake the f*ck up. Use a less shady Lab.

 

[thethinker48]

I would rather not take a compound if it gives mental sides as opposed to take another to mitigate it's side effects