Some people get great results with eq and swear buy it ,but I like primo much better than eq.no water retention, im not hungry 24/7 ,seems to work better on reduced calorie diets,and it does not screw with my sex life like eq does.If i do more than 200mg a week of eq it takes me an hour to nut and when it finaly happens sensitivy seems to be very weak , even while running test along with it.Unfortunatly primo cost 3-4 times as much as eq.