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[JETHRO TULL]

You are right about the educational system.

Yeah I had to drop some of the bodybuilding groups, the pseudo science and rigid nazi attitudes about IIFYM just get under my skin. And the noobs, I mean there's always noobs, but thee questions they ask now make me understand how broken our educational system is in the US.

It IS terrible. I teach high school. If I had kids of my own...I would absolutely homeschool them. I hear all the arguments about "socializing them". Screw that. I would argue that the scum they socialize with are not positive learning experiences. I get kids in my classes all the time who have been homeschooled until the 8th grade. They are ALWAYS way ahead of the students who have been taught in public schools. Not even close.

 

[E.J.]

It IS terrible. I teach high school. If I had kids of my own...I would absolutely homeschool them. I hear all the arguments about "socializing them". Screw that. I would argue that the scum they socialize with are not positive learning experiences. I get kids in my classes all the time who have been homeschooled until the 8th grade. They are ALWAYS way ahead of the students who have been taught in public schools. Not even close.

My twins start kindergarten in the fall. They will be going to private Christian school. Expensive but worth keeping them from the idiots in the public education system.

 

[Marvin Martian]

Life is hard - but it's ALOT harder when you're stupid! And even worse when you scream - "LOOK AT ME I AM A MORON!"

 

[bulking1]

He is lucky he did not crush his wind pipe or break his neck.

 

[TrinityD]

Honestly I think a big part of it is mens physique. Some of the guys have great builds and really work hard at it.
But it opened the door for floods of hacks and wannabes that couldnt hack it as bodybuilders.
9 out of 10 times that someone is acting like their shit dont stink and they have got this training and nutrition thing all figured out its coming from some idiot who is in mens physique and now has qualified himself as an expert.
Again Im not trying to disrespect the guys who do it. But their division gets a lot of rif raff floating in.

One of the main reason people compete in physique(I am speaking about some....not all) is because they rather only use 500mg of gear a week instead of 5+grams alongside Growth Hormone,Insulin,Peptides,and tons of other chemicals as well as damage their kidneys,liver,heart,internal organs,and die young plus experience health complications. I know several physique guys at the highest tier, meaning qualified for the Olympia or already on it. Not one single one of them has ever used over a gram that I know; in fact they stay off all year with the exception of TRT 200-300/week and only use a few months out from competition...once again using very mild doses. You will always find some failure using 3-5X more gear than necessary to be on that stage, but hopefully those are rare instances and they are definetly NOT representative of what most guys are doing to be at that level.

If somebody paid me 5million to become a bodybuilder and I had the best bodybuilding genetics on the planet , I would not do it. Why? Because I value my health more than that. If other's don't, that's cool, that's their decision.

IMO people shouldn't tell physique competitors that they "couldn't make it" because they don't want to take 1-2K Tren, 10-20iu of HGH, and live everyday of their life taking insulin with their meals alongside the grams upon grams of other anabolics/ oral abuse living their life blood test to blood test. Not to mention eating absurd quantities of food that the human body was never meant to eat.

That's just disgusting and stupid to tell physique competitors that they "couldn't make it" as bodybuilders, and that's why they're doing it. It's usually for the reason(s) that I just stated.

 

[Bull996]

Haha wow. What a jack ass!! He's lucky to say the least

 

[richiec]

One of the main reason people compete in physique(I am speaking about some....not all) is because they rather only use 500mg of gear a week instead of 5+grams alongside Growth Hormone,Insulin,Peptides,and tons of other chemicals as well as damage their kidneys,liver,heart,internal organs,and die young plus experience health complications. I know several physique guys at the highest tier, meaning qualified for the Olympia or already on it. Not one single one of them has ever used over a gram that I know; in fact they stay off all year with the exception of TRT 200-300/week and only use a few months out from competition...once again using very mild doses. You will always find some failure using 3-5X more gear than necessary to be on that stage, but hopefully those are rare instances and they are definetly NOT representative of what most guys are doing to be at that level.

If somebody paid me 5million to become a bodybuilder and I had the best bodybuilding genetics on the planet , I would not do it. Why? Because I value my health more than that. If other's don't, that's cool, that's their decision.

IMO people shouldn't tell physique competitors that they "couldn't make it" because they don't want to take 1-2K Tren, 10-20iu of HGH, and live everyday of their life taking insulin with their meals alongside the grams upon grams of other anabolics/ oral abuse living their life blood test to blood test. Not to mention eating absurd quantities of food that the human body was never meant to eat.

That's just disgusting and stupid to tell physique competitors that they "couldn't make it" as bodybuilders, and that's why they're doing it. It's usually for the reason(s) that I just stated.

LOL!!!!!

So wait, you know for certain, 100%, that these guys don't go over 1g a week
They don't use GH?
They don't use tren?
The best: "in fact they stay off all year with the exception of TRT 200-300/week".
Hate to break reality to you, but "staying off" means completely off, not TRT doses.
You don't think some of these physique guys abuse the hell out of themselves with drugs?
You can read it all over the forums, people have openly stated that they've given up on bodybuilding and gone to physique because they didn't have what it took to run with the big boys.
Good post otherwise

 

[LK3]

One of the main reason people compete in physique(I am speaking about some....not all) is because they rather only use 500mg of gear a week instead of 5+grams alongside Growth Hormone,Insulin,Peptides,and tons of other chemicals as well as damage their kidneys,liver,heart,internal organs,and die young plus experience health complications. I know several physique guys at the highest tier, meaning qualified for the Olympia or already on it. Not one single one of them has ever used over a gram that I know; in fact they stay off all year with the exception of TRT 200-300/week and only use a few months out from competition...once again using very mild doses. You will always find some failure using 3-5X more gear than necessary to be on that stage, but hopefully those are rare instances and they are definetly NOT representative of what most guys are doing to be at that level.

If somebody paid me 5million to become a bodybuilder and I had the best bodybuilding genetics on the planet , I would not do it. Why? Because I value my health more than that. If other's don't, that's cool, that's their decision.

IMO people shouldn't tell physique competitors that they "couldn't make it" because they don't want to take 1-2K Tren, 10-20iu of HGH, and live everyday of their life taking insulin with their meals alongside the grams upon grams of other anabolics/ oral abuse living their life blood test to blood test. Not to mention eating absurd quantities of food that the human body was never meant to eat.

That's just disgusting and stupid to tell physique competitors that they "couldn't make it" as bodybuilders, and that's why they're doing it. It's usually for the reason(s) that I just stated.

I love how 200-300mg of test is now considered being off. lol!

I haven't run more then that in years and honestly im shocked at how effective it really is,but calling it off is absurd....

at 24 I was prescribed trt and had t levels below 100...

there are plenty of BIG bbers who use such doses off season. while drugs are a large part of things not every pro or 230+ bber is rockin 5gs a week year round :banghead:

 

[ajdos]

One of the main reason people compete in physique(I am speaking about some....not all) is because they rather only use 500mg of gear a week instead of 5+grams alongside Growth Hormone,Insulin,Peptides,and tons of other chemicals as well as damage their kidneys,liver,heart,internal organs,and die young plus experience health complications. I know several physique guys at the highest tier, meaning qualified for the Olympia or already on it. Not one single one of them has ever used over a gram that I know; in fact they stay off all year with the exception of TRT 200-300/week and only use a few months out from competition...once again using very mild doses. You will always find some failure using 3-5X more gear than necessary to be on that stage, but hopefully those are rare instances and they are definetly NOT representative of what most guys are doing to be at that level.

If somebody paid me 5million to become a bodybuilder and I had the best bodybuilding genetics on the planet , I would not do it. Why? Because I value my health more than that. If other's don't, that's cool, that's their decision.

IMO people shouldn't tell physique competitors that they "couldn't make it" because they don't want to take 1-2K Tren, 10-20iu of HGH, and live everyday of their life taking insulin with their meals alongside the grams upon grams of other anabolics/ oral abuse living their life blood test to blood test. Not to mention eating absurd quantities of food that the human body was never meant to eat.

That's just disgusting and stupid to tell physique competitors that they "couldn't make it" as bodybuilders, and that's why they're doing it. It's usually for the reason(s) that I just stated.

LOL!!!!!

So wait, you know for certain, 100%, that these guys don't go over 1g a week
They don't use GH?
They don't use tren?
The best: "in fact they stay off all year with the exception of TRT 200-300/week".
Hate to break reality to you, but "staying off" means completely off, not TRT doses.
You don't think some of these physique guys abuse the hell out of themselves with drugs?
You can read it all over the forums, people have openly stated that they've given up on bodybuilding and gone to physique because they didn't have what it took to run with the big boys.
Good post otherwise

Thats funny, I must know some seriously different physique competitors.
The ones I knew and know use TONS of shit. In fact they use as much or more as bodybuilders I know.
One guy I knew was running all sorts of shit including HALO.
My post was more from the perspective of a bodybuilder whos seen these primadonnas at the shows as a competitor.
There are mens physique competitors who are VERY VERY good, and have great physiques, but the last show I did there were exactly 100 mens physique competitors and maybe, maybe 20 of them were good the other odd 80 were stick boys with abs, in board shorts, and these tools were talking like they have been doing this shit since back in the day. It gets old when I hear talk like that from guys in a division thats only been around about 6 -7 years? They do ones men's physique and now they're friggin seasoned vets.
And so far as bodybuilding being harder? umm fuck yeah it is, every year you are pressed to come in bigger, harder, leaner, and its a 365 day a year effort to do so. Pushing your body to bigger and bigger off season bodyweights and trying to keep the bodyfat down.
I dont see any mens physique competitors having to do that. They may refine their physiques but its not like competing in an open ended class like SHW where the sky is the limit for the size of the competitors you go up against.
I have nothing against mens physique on the whole, but quite honestly it attracts some people who have no business saying they compete at anything.
We have a mens physique competitor here on PM who has an awesome physique and is hard as nails. Guys like him I respect.
Its the other half assed guys in boy shorts acting like their shit dont stink that makes me want to punch their teeth down their throats.

 

[pieguy]

Thats funny, I must know some seriously different physique competitors.
The ones I knew and know use TONS of shit. In fact they use as much or more as bodybuilders I know.
One guy I knew was running all sorts of shit including HALO.
My post was more from the perspective of a bodybuilder whos seen these primadonnas at the shows as a competitor.
There are mens physique competitors who are VERY VERY good, and have great physiques, but the last show I did there were exactly 100 mens physique competitors and maybe, maybe 20 of them were good the other odd 80 were stick boys with abs, in board shorts, and these tools were talking like they have been doing this shit since back in the day. It gets old when I hear talk like that from guys in a division thats only been around about 6 -7 years? They do ones men's physique and now they're friggin seasoned vets.
And so far as bodybuilding being harder? umm fuck yeah it is, every year you are pressed to come in bigger, harder, leaner, and its a 365 day a year effort to do so. Pushing your body to bigger and bigger off season bodyweights and trying to keep the bodyfat down.
I dont see any mens physique competitors having to do that. They may refine their physiques but its not like competing in an open ended class like SHW where the sky is the limit for the size of the competitors you go up against.
I have nothing against mens physique on the whole, but quite honestly it attracts some people who have no business saying they compete at anything.
We have a mens physique competitor here on PM who has an awesome physique and is hard as nails. Guys like him I respect.
Its the other half assed guys in boy shorts acting like their shit dont stink that makes me want to punch their teeth down their throats.

Couldn't agree more to the bolded parts.

 

[red5150]

One of the main reason people compete in physique(I am speaking about some....not all) is because they rather only use 500mg of gear a week instead of 5+grams alongside Growth Hormone,Insulin,Peptides,and tons of other chemicals as well as damage their kidneys,liver,heart,internal organs,and die young plus experience health complications. I know several physique guys at the highest tier, meaning qualified for the Olympia or already on it. Not one single one of them has ever used over a gram that I know; in fact they stay off all year with the exception of TRT 200-300/week and only use a few months out from competition...once again using very mild doses. You will always find some failure using 3-5X more gear than necessary to be on that stage, but hopefully those are rare instances and they are definetly NOT representative of what most guys are doing to be at that level.

If somebody paid me 5million to become a bodybuilder and I had the best bodybuilding genetics on the planet , I would not do it. Why? Because I value my health more than that. If other's don't, that's cool, that's their decision.

IMO people shouldn't tell physique competitors that they "couldn't make it" because they don't want to take 1-2K Tren, 10-20iu of HGH, and live everyday of their life taking insulin with their meals alongside the grams upon grams of other anabolics/ oral abuse living their life blood test to blood test. Not to mention eating absurd quantities of food that the human body was never meant to eat.

That's just disgusting and stupid to tell physique competitors that they "couldn't make it" as bodybuilders, and that's why they're doing it. It's usually for the reason(s) that I just stated.

So when was your last physique show?

 

[BigDM]

Here's another brutal fail:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=635529139870473

 

[ajdos]

Here's another brutal fail:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=635529139870473

Holy windpipes Batman!

 

[Achilles-reborn]

Damn it he must have been seriously hurt


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[red5150]

OK, so before anyone gets their panties in a WAD, I AM NO WAY cracking on Gene, but the comments from clueless Mike Adamle to HHH and from him back again is just priceless after the failed attempt.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHr6uGWXuaQ]Gene Rychlak doesn't quite get it this time - YouTube[/ame]

 

[swolegasm]

made me cringe...

 

[TrinityD]

LOL!!!!!

So wait, you know for certain, 100%, that these guys don't go over 1g a week
They don't use GH?
They don't use tren?
The best: "in fact they stay off all year with the exception of TRT 200-300/week".
Hate to break reality to you, but "staying off" means completely off, not TRT doses.
You don't think some of these physique guys abuse the hell out of themselves with drugs?
You can read it all over the forums, people have openly stated that they've given up on bodybuilding and gone to physique because they didn't have what it took to run with the big boys.
Good post otherwise

Let's reclarify a few things since you just blurted some nonsense which is nowhere to be found in my post(and keep it civil while doing so)

#1) Where did I write they don't use GH?

Hold on...looking through my post... Oh don't see it . Guess you just made crap up.

#2) Where did I write they don't use Tren?

Hold on...looking through my post... Oh don't see that either. Guess you just made more crap up.

Not doing too well here on the reading comprehension...just saying....lol...

#3) "You don't think some of these physique guys abuse the hell out of themselves with drugs?"

Let's see. I just stated in my post that there clearly some "Failures"; people taking 3-5X the amount of what others are taking because their diet/training/genetics or a combination of them are crap.

So actually , yes, I very explicitly wrote and acknowledged they exist.

3 strikes so far man.....3.....


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Anyways, as I have already mentioned...I will mention it again since it seems some people are having difficulty in reading what I wrote:

Yes. Some of them abuse drugs. I see people on this forum using several grams of gear including obscene amounts of tren that look awful. I can't even tell they have been on anything past a 500mg/week test cycle (I am NOT saying this to put somebody down, be rude, discriminating, or a jerk...please listen to me sincerely when I say this; I am being 100% honest and sometimes the truth REALLY hurts).

In every sport, there are always people that just SUCK no matter what they do. In our sport, these people try to make up for it by abusing drugs. This does NOT mean that all top competitors do that.

I really wish I could give some names right now and give some doses. I literally know one I'm thinking of right now and he's far beyond "just an IFBB Pro physique guy", he's top tier....

And yes, he has NEVER gone over a gram. He doesn't touch anything except somewhere between 500-900ish mg of gear. No T3/Clen/DNP/Insulin/Peptides/Crazy stacks. Doesn't even touch orals except right before contest.GH is also only used about 3 months a year.He is on 200-300 test EXCEPT a few months out.

Does he use GH? Yes, only a few months out of the competition.
Is it an astronomical amount? No...not even close

Does he use Tren? Yes only for the big stage....
Is it a large amount? All I'm going to say is that it's less than 200 a week. yes you read that right....less than 200 tren a week.

This guy is not alone. There are dozens and hundreds of others using piss small amounts of gear and making it. That's how it should be too in this division..


HOWEVER... I will agree with you that 200-300 test is not truly "TRT". I understand it's a 'cruise' to you guys, but the point is, some of these guys that are CHAMPION level...NOT JUST IFBB PRO LEVEL(There's tons of IFBB PRO'S, IDGAF ABOUT JUST BEING AN IFBB PRO) literally only running 200-300mg of test throughout the year except near competition time. Yet there's people on this forum and other forums running 2-3grams of test alone stacked with other anabolics that I can't say look as good

They will literally pulse 1 bulk cycle, 1 contest cycle and that's it. 3-4 months of gear throughout the whole year while it being piss poor doses.

I can't give out exact numbers, but let's just say 175npp/175tren and 50anavar a day can do wonders. Do the math.

 

[chestrockwell420]

Ajdos!!! wassup brother?! glad to see ya around! sorry im slow as the oil patch has me on the road alot. hope life is treating you well....glad to see ya here

 

[ajdos]

Ajdos!!! wassup brother?! glad to see ya around! sorry im slow as the oil patch has me on the road alot. hope life is treating you well....glad to see ya here

Good to see you old friend.

 

[BigDM]

Holy windpipes Batman!

Did you notice he was using a suicide grip. Maybe it was intentional???