• All new members please introduce your self here and welcome to the board:
    http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259
Buy Needles And Syringes With No Prescription
M4B Store Banner
ddd
Riptropin Store banner
Generation X Bodybuilding Forum
Buy Needles And Syringes With No Prescription
Buy Needles And Syringes With No Prescription
Mysupps Store Banner
IP Gear Store Banner
Anabolic Hormones Store Banner
Ganabol Store Banner
Spend $100 and get bonus needles free at sterile syringes
Professional Muscle Store open now
LandmarkChem Email Banner
Medtech Store Banner
Bruce Labs Store banner
advertise on professional muscle millions of hits per month
Professional Muscle Store open now
over 5000 supplements on sale at professional muscle store
over 5000 supplements on sale at professional muscle store
over 5000 supplements on sale at professional muscle store
over 5000 supplements on sale at professional muscle store
over 5000 supplements on sale at professional muscle store
over 5000 supplements on sale at professional muscle store

Fruit as a primary carb source?

salemguy321

New member
Registered
Joined
Jun 27, 2009
Messages
176
Recently I've been manipulating my diet to find what works best for me with regards to the weight loss game. I've always been an easy gainer and I've always found it difficult to lose fat. A few weeks ago I had the idea to switch most of my carbs throughout the day from grain (Brown rice, whole wheat bread, etc) to fruit. I do eat veggies during the day as well. The reason for this "change" was i noticed when I eat grain based carbs I feel tired, lethargic, and bloated. But I guess I always had the thought that I needed these complex carbs to fuel my body so thats what I had always done. Since I've made this switch I've noticed I'm not tired or lethargic, I feel better, I've lost weight and I'm becoming addicted to fruit and find myself craving it throughout the day.

I hear on the board all the time that you need to listen to your body and eat accordingly, and it seems as though my body is telling me to greatly limit my grain intake. Is there any reason why I shouldn't keep doing this? It seems to be working and I feel alot better, but it goes against what I "know". Is anyone else like this? Are there any downfalls to eating more fruit and limiting the complex carbs that I might be unaware of or not considering?

Any useful info, thoughts, considerations, or comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
 

Ness

New member
Kilo Klub Member
Joined
May 31, 2007
Messages
1,598
Fruits are king. Eat starchy carbs pwo and fruits for all other times. Macros are key. Fruits are an old staple to BBers, so youre not alone by a long shot.
 

3BILLS

Well-known member
Kilo Klub Member
Registered
Joined
Oct 1, 2007
Messages
1,578
Fruits are king. Eat starchy carbs pwo and fruits for all other times. Macros are key. Fruits are an old staple to BBers, so youre not alone by a long shot.
Hey ness, is there any certain fruits you recommend ? Thanks
 

kid1dakota

Active member
Kilo Klub Member
Registered
Joined
Jan 27, 2009
Messages
2,256
Recently I've been manipulating my diet to find what works best for me with regards to the weight loss game. I've always been an easy gainer and I've always found it difficult to lose fat. A few weeks ago I had the idea to switch most of my carbs throughout the day from grain (Brown rice, whole wheat bread, etc) to fruit. I do eat veggies during the day as well. The reason for this "change" was i noticed when I eat grain based carbs I feel tired, lethargic, and bloated. But I guess I always had the thought that I needed these complex carbs to fuel my body so thats what I had always done. Since I've made this switch I've noticed I'm not tired or lethargic, I feel better, I've lost weight and I'm becoming addicted to fruit and find myself craving it throughout the day.

I hear on the board all the time that you need to listen to your body and eat accordingly, and it seems as though my body is telling me to greatly limit my grain intake. Is there any reason why I shouldn't keep doing this? It seems to be working and I feel alot better, but it goes against what I "know". Is anyone else like this? Are there any downfalls to eating more fruit and limiting the complex carbs that I might be unaware of or not considering?

Any useful info, thoughts, considerations, or comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
What exactly do you "know"?? As a chiropractor and nutritionist what I "know" is grains are inflammatory and certain people shouldn't consume them at all,others in moderation.I have studied this a lot both through my own observations with patients and also others reasearch on the subject.

This has been discussed on here many times but some may have missed those threads.When the Egyptians started farming and storing grains in mass amounts a large number of health conditions began being seen in much higher numbers which have continued rising and still do to this day.

Diabetes: of course large amounts of excess carbohydrates and weight gain over time will contribute to the onset type 2 diabetes.
Inflammation: which increases cholesterol . increase in weight gain leading to high BP another condition leading towards metabolic syndrome.

Many more conditions arise from the weight gain and inflammation associated with excessive grain intake.As well as it can exacerbate certain conditions such as fibromyalgia,and arthritis and a host others causing problems that way.

Grains have been shown to increase inflammation markers in the body and are not tolerated by most.People don't even know this because thay have always been a staple in most peoples diets.When they are removed many feel much better,but they have been taught they are so healthy.Example the food pyramid:banghead:

So I agree moderate fruit intake would be a much healthier choice.
 
Last edited:

jp2007

New member
Registered
Joined
May 18, 2009
Messages
800
Bananas in moderation, papaya, pineapple, granny smith apples, and orange juice.
 

dukkitdalaw

New member
Registered
Joined
Oct 16, 2009
Messages
967
Best fruits in terms of lower GI are...

Grapefruit, mango, apples, berries.

Within the past year I have added more fruit to my diet.

Whether its bulking or cutting.

Mostly apples for their ease.

I have def noted better energy (quick energy, but low gi breakdown) less sickness (vitamins and nutrients) and less of a sugar craving (I have a huge sweettooth)
 

salemguy321

New member
Registered
Joined
Jun 27, 2009
Messages
176
Well I certainly dont claim to "know" a lot about nutrition, thats why I ask questions on here. But on the other hand I'm not going to take the time to write out what I do know. Like you said kid, the food pyramid teaches people to eat lots of grain and in today's society it's often shoved down peoples throats as "the right way to eat". I've never like that, or what it teaches. I believe everyone is different, what works for some might not work for others. I didn't however, know that grain caused inflammation. That is an interesting concept to me and one that I would love to research and learn more about.

As for fruit that i've been eating; apples, peaches, bananas, pears, pineapple, grapes, berries, and Oranges (or Clementine's)
 

MR. BMJ

Kilo Klub Member / Verified Customer
Kilo Klub Member
Registered
Verified Customer
Joined
Nov 15, 2006
Messages
3,364
Any carbohydrate source can be consumed when eaten in the correct context, and when it fits within your carb and caloric needs and goals. Fruits bring a great nutrient profile to the table.

BMJ
 

kid1dakota

Active member
Kilo Klub Member
Registered
Joined
Jan 27, 2009
Messages
2,256
Well I certainly dont claim to "know" a lot about nutrition, thats why I ask questions on here. But on the other hand I'm not going to take the time to write out what I do know. Like you said kid, the food pyramid teaches people to eat lots of grain and in today's society it's often shoved down peoples throats as "the right way to eat". I've never like that, or what it teaches. I believe everyone is different, what works for some might not work for others. I didn't however, know that grain caused inflammation. That is an interesting concept to me and one that I would love to research and learn more about.

As for fruit that i've been eating; apples, peaches, bananas, pears, pineapple, grapes, berries, and Oranges (or Clementine's)
Yes you got it brother;) I wasn't implying you lacked knowlege in nutrition by any means.I was stating that what people are taught is simply wrong like the food pyramid which you picked up on.
But what you experienced in your own body is huge and something to listen to more so than what some others on here will claim by parrotting their favorite guru,dogma,or broscience etc... .
Good luck to you.
 
Last edited:

Bionic

New member
Kilo Klub Member
Joined
Oct 10, 2005
Messages
2,433
Hey Kid1, not to be argumentative but it seems like you are laying all of the blame for inflammation on excessive grain intake. It's not like grains are the only foods that cause inflammation. Meat, eggs & dairy all contain Arachadonic Acid which is an essential fatty acid (necessary for most mammals) and pro-inflammatory. We know how beneficial meat, eggs and dairy are for us. My question is: Is it possible that inflammation is necessary/beneficial? Perhaps it is the catalyst/pre-cursor for other processes that are necessary and beneficial to our systems.
IMO, unless you have Celiac Disease, grains can be useful.
 

salemguy321

New member
Registered
Joined
Jun 27, 2009
Messages
176
Yes you got it brother;) I wasn't implying you lacked knowlege in nutrition by any means.I was stating that what people are taught is simply wrong like the food pyramid which you picked up on.
But what you experienced in your own body is huge and something to listen to more so than what some others on here will claim by parrotting their favorite guru,dogma,or broscience etc... .
Good luck to you.
It's all good bro... I do lack knowledge, that's why I'm here to learn. :)
 

EDED

Banned
Joined
Jan 31, 2009
Messages
987
seasonal fruits are great,

lets see, ive heard of some people getting 'flat' on fruits only,,,i think it has to do with potassium not carb type. so thats another story

ive done fine with fruits only as carb source, and recnetly its been starch/fruit mix. Seem better however if i get careless i get watery real fast from non fruit type carbs.
 

red5150

Featured Member / Kilo Klub
Featured Member
Kilo Klub Member
Joined
Oct 25, 2010
Messages
1,807
don't most of the top gurus shun fruit for competition purposes? saying the simple sugars in fruit convert to easily to fat and make you retain water??

I usually eat 2 cups of frozen blueberries a day. I've read watermelon is a great carb PWO, but can't quite remember what is so beneficial in it.
 

tenny

New member
Featured Member
Kilo Klub Member
Joined
Aug 26, 2003
Messages
7,434
don't most of the top gurus shun fruit for competition purposes? saying the simple sugars in fruit convert to easily to fat and make you retain water??

I usually eat 2 cups of frozen blueberries a day. I've read watermelon is a great carb PWO, but can't quite remember what is so beneficial in it.
lol......this is when i use fruit the most.....competition

and simple sugars DO NOT convert to fat OR make you retain water

:cool:
 

Johnny Smiles

Banned
Registered
Joined
Jun 9, 2009
Messages
2,568
lol......this is when i use fruit the most.....competition

and simple sugars DO NOT convert to fat OR make you retain water

:cool:
X2
-JS
 

Jude2

New member
Kilo Klub Member
Joined
Jan 19, 2009
Messages
1,057
lol......this is when i use fruit the most.....competition

and simple sugars DO NOT convert to fat OR make you retain water

:cool:
Alot of guys are starting to have success with this.
 

Forum statistics

Total page views
500,079,273
Threads
123,022
Messages
2,333,842
Members
154,889
Latest member
PhilSavage
Top