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Gloucophage vs. Metaformin..please list expirences
Im not on any A.S. now and wont be for awhile therefore, Im thinking about incorporating either gloucophage or metaformin into my "natural" training regimen. Ive heard that when taken with creatine/glutamine you can really get a nice effect and really make some decent gains. Anyone have any info regarding sides, usage etc.. thanks in advance.
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01-14-2002 05:38 AM
JFIta
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Firstly:Glucophage contains the active ingredient METFORMINE.
It's not so amazing even if you stack it with creatine.
It made to me a great stomach enlargement(something like insulin,but with less gains)and some nausea so maybe I stopped too soon to see the results-
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I tend to think insulin is one thing that ONLY works as an inject. THe oral versions like meta and Gluco just don't work as well.
RY
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Glucophage is the brand name for metformin hydrochloride.
Metformin is NOT oral insulin. People confuse it as such, because in most countries oral insulin is called Diamicron and metformin is called Diaformin.
When your body releases insulin, over time, your insulin receptors get 'dull', less responsive. In advanced stages that becomes type II diabesis.
Metformin 'refreshes' those receptors, making them more sensitive to the insulin that your body releases.
It is a great product. Taken straight after a large meal, within the hor you will have EXTREMELLY full muscles. Dosages are 500mg after a normal to large carb meal, 1,000mg after a big carb meal and 1,500mg after all you can eat at Pizza Hut. You can take it after as many meals in a day as you wish, as long as those are large carb meals.
I believe every human should be on metformin, as it helps keep your insulin receptors fresh and as such it will prevent typeII diabesis.
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italmuscle
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Metaformin
As always Big A gives a full and satisfying answer. I feel that Big A is very knowledgable(but not like me!)LOL.
I have no more to say about metaformin because Big A has given you all the information that you need to know about it.
Italmuscle
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Re: Metaformin
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Originally posted by italmuscle
As always Big A gives a full and satisfying answer. I feel that Big A is very knowledgable(but not like me!)LOL.
I have no more to say about metaformin because Big A has given you all the information that you need to know about it.
Italmuscle
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You just HAD to jump in there and try to sound smarter than me, huh?huh?huh???
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01-14-2002 07:36 PM
johan
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is metaformin legal and OTC??
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MikeS
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Its non-scheduled. You can find it cheap at online pharmacies. Try -
www.medsmex.com
I see it in life-extension magazines too.
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Ry Roid
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Know-it-All-SMARTASS BIG A!!hehehe
Yeah he is right I got confused. What I can't get confused when doing a million things at once?LOL I AM ONLY HUMAN!!
RY
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01-15-2002 12:16 AM
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Big A if you like metformin you should try phenformin; it is the next generation product and even more effective at increasing insulin sensitivity. The stuff really shines when on carb restrictive diets; you can still get some awesome pumps in the gym when doing a keto diet or just simply being restrictive w/ your carbs.
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01-15-2002 12:31 AM
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OPINION
I BELIEVE RY ROID AND BIG A. AHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHHA I CANT PICK SIDES!!!!!
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BUT????????????
BIG A. YOU TOLD ME AND RY THAT WE WERE NOT HUMAN, SO SHOULD WE BE ON METFORMIN???????????? HAHHHAHAHHA
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Big A
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Well, last time I checked, you guys had green scalp, so I don't know if this works on aliens!
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Originally posted by Maximus2031
Big A if you like metformin you should try phenformin; it is the next generation product and even more effective at increasing insulin sensitivity. The stuff really shines when on carb restrictive diets; you can still get some awesome pumps in the gym when doing a keto diet or just simply being restrictive w/ your carbs.
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Yes, I know abot phenformin. The prob is that I have much harder time finding it, while metformin is everywhere.
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Ry Roid
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Ip carries the Phenformin but, I don't know if that helps you A.hehhee
RY
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Big bi's
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re
Thanks for all the help fellas. I never had a problem with IP's stuff so maybe I'll give the phenoformin a try. What do you guys think...go with the bootleg phenoformin or stick with a reputable metaformin brand? Thanks again.,
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hey eyecandy, this thread might help you out too!
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02-08-2002 03:22 AM
BigGirl
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Hi
glucophage is the brand name, metformin is the generic name, both the same med.
A lot of my diabetic clients are on this drug, it makes you more sensitive to your own insulin so your body only releases a small amt instead of a ton, which can make you fat.
there was a study done on NON-diabetic teens who needed to loose weight. The teens that got the drug lost twice as much weight as the group that got the placebo.
I put my boyfriend on this and got it online w/out a script. He is very resisitant to loosing fat and I suspect has hyperinsulinemia due to family history etc. He's only been on it a few weeks, so I'll have to let you know later how it's coming. Here's a link to were I got it:
**broken link removed**
BigGirl has attached this image:
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FRKNHUGE
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hey sweetie
glad to see ure here
always nice to see another beauty in the house
ok guys she is as nice as they come
take care hunn
frk
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johan
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damn a prescription is needed for the shit in sweden anoying .
and that also makes it illegal to import.
damn shit country I live in .
Junior Member
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Location: somewhere
Posts: 28
Gloucophage vs. Metaformin..please list expirences
Im not on any A.S. now and wont be for awhile therefore, Im thinking about incorporating either gloucophage or metaformin into my "natural" training regimen. Ive heard that when taken with creatine/glutamine you can really get a nice effect and really make some decent gains. Anyone have any info regarding sides, usage etc.. thanks in advance.
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01-14-2002 05:38 AM
JFIta
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Firstly:Glucophage contains the active ingredient METFORMINE.
It's not so amazing even if you stack it with creatine.
It made to me a great stomach enlargement(something like insulin,but with less gains)and some nausea so maybe I stopped too soon to see the results-
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01-14-2002 07:07 AM
Ry Roid
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I tend to think insulin is one thing that ONLY works as an inject. THe oral versions like meta and Gluco just don't work as well.
RY
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Big A
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Glucophage is the brand name for metformin hydrochloride.
Metformin is NOT oral insulin. People confuse it as such, because in most countries oral insulin is called Diamicron and metformin is called Diaformin.
When your body releases insulin, over time, your insulin receptors get 'dull', less responsive. In advanced stages that becomes type II diabesis.
Metformin 'refreshes' those receptors, making them more sensitive to the insulin that your body releases.
It is a great product. Taken straight after a large meal, within the hor you will have EXTREMELLY full muscles. Dosages are 500mg after a normal to large carb meal, 1,000mg after a big carb meal and 1,500mg after all you can eat at Pizza Hut. You can take it after as many meals in a day as you wish, as long as those are large carb meals.
I believe every human should be on metformin, as it helps keep your insulin receptors fresh and as such it will prevent typeII diabesis.
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01-14-2002 03:45 PM
italmuscle
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Metaformin
As always Big A gives a full and satisfying answer. I feel that Big A is very knowledgable(but not like me!)LOL.
I have no more to say about metaformin because Big A has given you all the information that you need to know about it.
Italmuscle
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Big A
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Re: Metaformin
quote:
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Originally posted by italmuscle
As always Big A gives a full and satisfying answer. I feel that Big A is very knowledgable(but not like me!)LOL.
I have no more to say about metaformin because Big A has given you all the information that you need to know about it.
Italmuscle
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You just HAD to jump in there and try to sound smarter than me, huh?huh?huh???
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01-14-2002 07:36 PM
johan
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is metaformin legal and OTC??
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01-14-2002 09:38 PM
MikeS
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Its non-scheduled. You can find it cheap at online pharmacies. Try -
www.medsmex.com
I see it in life-extension magazines too.
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01-14-2002 09:53 PM
Ry Roid
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Know-it-All-SMARTASS BIG A!!hehehe
Yeah he is right I got confused. What I can't get confused when doing a million things at once?LOL I AM ONLY HUMAN!!
RY
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01-15-2002 12:16 AM
Maximus2031
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Big A if you like metformin you should try phenformin; it is the next generation product and even more effective at increasing insulin sensitivity. The stuff really shines when on carb restrictive diets; you can still get some awesome pumps in the gym when doing a keto diet or just simply being restrictive w/ your carbs.
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01-15-2002 12:31 AM
Phil Hernon
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OPINION
I BELIEVE RY ROID AND BIG A. AHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHHA I CANT PICK SIDES!!!!!
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Phil Hernon
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BUT????????????
BIG A. YOU TOLD ME AND RY THAT WE WERE NOT HUMAN, SO SHOULD WE BE ON METFORMIN???????????? HAHHHAHAHHA
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01-15-2002 12:36 AM
Big A
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Well, last time I checked, you guys had green scalp, so I don't know if this works on aliens!
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01-15-2002 08:08 AM
Big A
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quote:
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Originally posted by Maximus2031
Big A if you like metformin you should try phenformin; it is the next generation product and even more effective at increasing insulin sensitivity. The stuff really shines when on carb restrictive diets; you can still get some awesome pumps in the gym when doing a keto diet or just simply being restrictive w/ your carbs.
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Yes, I know abot phenformin. The prob is that I have much harder time finding it, while metformin is everywhere.
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Ry Roid
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Ip carries the Phenformin but, I don't know if that helps you A.hehhee
RY
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Big bi's
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Thanks for all the help fellas. I never had a problem with IP's stuff so maybe I'll give the phenoformin a try. What do you guys think...go with the bootleg phenoformin or stick with a reputable metaformin brand? Thanks again.,
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Growing Dad
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bump
hey eyecandy, this thread might help you out too!
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Protector of my family!
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02-08-2002 03:22 AM
BigGirl
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Location: Minneapolis
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Hi
glucophage is the brand name, metformin is the generic name, both the same med.
A lot of my diabetic clients are on this drug, it makes you more sensitive to your own insulin so your body only releases a small amt instead of a ton, which can make you fat.
there was a study done on NON-diabetic teens who needed to loose weight. The teens that got the drug lost twice as much weight as the group that got the placebo.
I put my boyfriend on this and got it online w/out a script. He is very resisitant to loosing fat and I suspect has hyperinsulinemia due to family history etc. He's only been on it a few weeks, so I'll have to let you know later how it's coming. Here's a link to were I got it:
**broken link removed**
BigGirl has attached this image:
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02-10-2002 11:15 AM
FRKNHUGE
Future Junior Natl Powerlifting Champ
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: in your bed with ur girl, lol
Posts: 289
hey sweetie
glad to see ure here
always nice to see another beauty in the house
ok guys she is as nice as they come
take care hunn
frk
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02-10-2002 12:43 PM
johan
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damn a prescription is needed for the shit in sweden anoying .
and that also makes it illegal to import.
damn shit country I live in .
