HELP!!DNP HIVES!!

[Highlats]

Hi, took one capsule of 200mg DNP last night with vitamin C and several Benadryl to keep down hives. Today about midday I started breaking out, lips swollen and red and itchy, same with bottom of my nose and (gross I know) the head of my dick...I took 3 times the recommended dosage of a daytime antihistamine and about 3 times the dosage of Benadryl and nothing is working. Before some smartass kid comes in here and replies with "hey here's the answer: stop taking it," I would greatly appreciate any insights to what is causing this and what can be done to stop it.

 

[Mr Pickles]

go to the Dr. they'll look at you and give you a shot of "decadron" i got a 8mg shot, usually they're 4mg shots i believe

i looked like the elephant man when i went in last year (waited 2 days before i went in cuz i dont have health insurance).. they felt so sorry for me they gave me a double shot

it went away in about 36 hours

its miserable, i know how you feel

 

[hulk]

i feel your pain bro, its quite rare but it happens...i am starting my first dnp cycle in a few days and i am hoping i am not allergic. i read that if you get an allergic reaction you should stop using it for about a week and then start again, eventually your body will develop tolerance to the drug. how bad is it? you scared me a bit...

 

[Skip]

Yeah, you could develop a tolerance, I suppose. Or, you could do the very logical thing and not use it at all.

I am not trying to start a shit storm but it amazes me how so many guys insist on using something that is so incredibly dangerous and simply not needed.

Skip

 

[Pittbull™]

DNP is a very dangerous substance and can kill!! IMO clen would be a much better and safer choice. DNP is a poison found in rat poison, herboside (sp?) and the like but people will still use things in the "obbsession" of having the perfect body in "their" mind & get it done a lot "quicker" when there are really much much safer & healther ways to loose the fat (it just may take a little longer)

Be carefull & be sefe, we've lost to many good bro's of reasent.

 

[Skip]

I have seen alot of info that shows clen to be pretty unsafe, as well. If you gave me the choice between the two I would go with clen every time but I don't like to use the word "safe" in the same sentence as clen.

Skip

 

[T-MUSCLE]

I AM AMAZED

way to go ..guys ,incourage and help this guy kill himself .. fuck i cant beleive how fucked up BB has gotton , are you guys really so fat you have to take dnp ? WAKE UP .. BEFORE U CANT

 

[T-MUSCLE]

Yeah, you could develop a tolerance, I suppose. Or, you could do the very logical thing and not use it at all.

I am not trying to start a shit storm but it amazes me how so many guys insist on using something that is so incredibly dangerous and simply not needed.

Skip

YOU SAID ""many guy's" because calling them athletes is just not correct ..

 

[Mr Pickles]

YOU SAID ""many guy's" because calling them athletes is just not correct ..

oh, because you're an all natural athlete ???

he already used it, we cant do anything about that. he didnt ask me if he should use it

he came to us with a health problem (hives) and we gave him some advice... that is the responsible thing to do

bitching at him at this point does nothing constructive, it helps no one

i dont recommend DNP to anyone

and i can gurantee you used more gear on your cycle than i used last year... i can gurantee that... i guess in your eyes that makes me a better "athlete" than you

 

[Mr Pickles]

I have seen alot of info that shows clen to be pretty unsafe, as well. If you gave me the choice between the two I would go with clen every time but I don't like to use the word "safe" in the same sentence as clen.

Skip

i agree too

i think ECA works better IMO

 

[Pittbull™]

If you re-read my post I didn't actually say clen was "safe" but rather I thought it to be a safer choice over DNP & I actually thought my post was more discouraging rather then "incourage and help this guy kill himself , I don't agree with the use of DNP, I personally think it's crazy. But isn't it better we inform people of the dangers & possibly the choice of useing something else that may be a lot safer.
Everything has some sort of side effect to a varying degree (even common ass pain killers). It's all about making informed choices & hopefully keeping each other safe from harm.

I hope that didn't come across as a bit of a rant, it's JMO.

 

[Mr Pickles]

Pit, i was wasnt bitching at you... it was directed to T-muscle

i would never tell someone to take DNP.... and he's preaching to us like we're so stupid/ignorant that we would, but nobody in this thread told this guy to do it, we just told him how to get help and that there are alternatives to it



T-muscle... if anyone in this thread needs disclipinary action its Highlats, you, and myself.

Highlats needs a talking to for using DNP (you seemed to have covered that in a noninformative and authoritarian way).... ever think of stepping up to the plate and directing him to some information so he can make an informed decision??? or was it just easier to bitch at him from your high and mighty pedestal ?

you need it for opening your mouth before you read the thread correctly... go back and reread it (and look up the word "tact")

and i need it for allowing you to get me this worked up over it... total lack of discipline on my part


*edit*

here, i'll do it for you..

Tact

n.

1. Acute sensitivity to what is proper and appropriate in dealing with others, including the ability to speak or act without offending.
2. Archaic. The sense of touch.

 

[Pittbull™]

I realise that Mr P. I was just trying to make my point clear as it didn't seem that people actually took in or understood what I had actually said.

 

[Crowler]

I have seen alot of info that shows clen to be pretty unsafe, as well. If you gave me the choice between the two I would go with clen every time but I don't like to use the word "safe" in the same sentence as clen.

Skip

How about if your choice was clen or albuterol?


CROWLER

 

[hulk]

IMO DNP is abused just as much as any other drug in bodybuilding. dnp is not more dangerous then t3 or clen for that matter, overdose on the other hand is deadly. there is been a few dnp deaths but only because dnp was obviously abused or misused. Dnp just requires a little responsibility. i just read about some idiot who played soccer for several hours under the sun while on dnp... needless to say he dehydrated severly and died. 400mgs a day is pretty safe. sure beats doing cardio 5 times a week

 

[Snarf]

You should know that a hive reaction is considered a very serious reaction to a drug. If you were taking Benadryl and it wasn't controling the reaction, then you are very sensitive to this agent.

Also, do not assume that your body will develop a tolerance to DNP. This isn't a biologic allergen where your body can develop a speicifc antigen to combat it. This a drug induced allergic reaction. This can result in hypersensitivity. Trying the drug again in a week could be a huge mistake - in fact that is very bad advice. Once your body has been exposed to the drug and reacted to it the next time it is exposed you can anaphylax very quickly.

You should note that it is really hard to take Benadryl when your airway is constricting shut. Do your best to dial 911 and maybe the Learning Channel is running a program on self-tracheotomies which will give you something to do until the ambulance arrives.

Not trying to be a prick, but you should never touch DNP again if you reacted that strongly the first time you used it. You are playing with fire.

 

[judas stone]

You should know that a hive reaction is considered a very serious reaction to a drug. If you were taking Benadryl and it wasn't controling the reaction, then you are very sensitive to this agent.

Also, do not assume that your body will develop a tolerance to DNP. This isn't a biologic allergen where your body can develop a speicifc antigen to combat it. This a drug induced allergic reaction. This can result in hypersensitivity. Trying the drug again in a week could be a huge mistake - in fact that is very bad advice. Once your body has been exposed to the drug and reacted to it the next time it is exposed you can anaphylax very quickly.

You should note that it is really hard to take Benadryl when your airway is constricting shut. Do your best to dial 911 and maybe the Learning Channel is running a program on self-tracheotomies which will give you something to do until the ambulance arrives.

Not trying to be a prick, but you should never touch DNP again if you reacted that strongly the first time you used it. You are playing with fire.

very very true, chances are against developing a "tolerance" more likely youll develop a hypersensitivity. very very dangerous. DNP is dangerous even without the allergy, i wont rant about it, but insisting on using something that you react that badly to, well.....its...(insert appropriate negative comment of your choosing)

 

[Highlats]

Strange

Hi, forgot to mention that I have done SIX cycles of DNP (after about a year of research) before without this reaction, and it only happened slightly the last time. I was not asking for opinions on whether or not one should use it. I was simply asking for trial and error advice from those who had. Please direct your "do not use" posts elsewhere. Thank you to the few that contributed to my question.

 

[Mr Pickles]

you're welcome

did you go to the Dr?

how do you feel?

 

[Snarf]

No offense meant Highlats, but your question is about like asking how come it hurts every time you smash yourself in the face with a hammer and wanting to hear solutions other than to stop hitting yourself in the face with a hammer.

In my opinion there is not other solution to your problem other than stopping. You can't make your body stop being allergic to this drug. I would rather have you pissed at me and alive rather than some other combination.