Titus = He got in trouble for ecxtasy sales across state lines, {texas to california} they raided his apartment {in cali} and found a boatload of juice...he was facing 3 years in prison if I remember right so he testified against one of his own friends (who is known today and has some popularity as a trainer) to get out of a federal jail term (this was all federal) so he would then instead have 3 years federal drug testing and probation.
For some reason he didn't account for that federally unlike state they test for everything including steroids. He flunked 7 drug tests in a row and the judge went absolutely ballistic on him by the 7th flunked test...his excuse was "they are not out of my system yet".....she {judge} gave him a stern warning that he is on a short leash and she pretty much had enough of his crap after the 3rd month of flunking and she was ready to throw him in jail for the duration of his probation.....alot of guys in Venice were reading my Hardcore Muscle newsletter at the time.....Titus I think contacted Curtis Leffler or someone else and asked if it was ok to ask me some advice.....I said yea no problem......I cant exactly remember but I think he saw me online (mid late 90's early internet) and he pmed me and said hey is there anyway I can ask you some advice right now...I said yes and he called me up....his dilemma was what he could use so he could pass his drug tests he was continually flunking. I told him "well what are you doing, tell me the absolute truth and Ill try to help you"
He went thru it all...it was ridiculous...to this day (and its been almost 20 years) its the most stuff Ive ever ever heard of anyone use gram wise.
my jaw dropped when he was listing it all out.
Its written down somewhere and I still have it because i was jotting it down while listening so i could give him a gameplan
Id have to go find it since its buried somewhere but im going by memory and it was pretty much this:... I think i am pretty much spot on with the below by memory
5 different testosterones adding up to about 5500mg of testosterone a week
included in that was
100mg plus of susp a day
1000 plus enanth
1000 plus cyp
1000plus prop a week
1000mg plus of sost a week (yea i dont get the rhyme or reason either, he just did it)
and im missing something because it was over 5 grams of testosterone.
deca--in high amounts
dball---in high amounts
equipoise--in high amounts
masteron--in high amounts
tren---using finiplix deriavitive (pellets) in high amounts
winstrol V--100-150 mg every day i think he said
i think winny tabs too
I am missing something or two because it came out to 13-15 just steroids if i remember correctly..it was just freaking ridiculous
nubain
lot of gh I want to say 10-13ius (sorry this was past mid 90's--i have it in my notes somewhere but they are buried)
insulin
and a Fred Flinstone chewable vitamin a day but he was scared because he felt it could be toxic if used longterm (kidding)
There was a pause after he got done talking because I thought "no way in hell....ive been around the block ive talked to a lot of these guys....this guy is out of his mind....there is no way in hell he is taking this much".....but he was. It wasnt a joke and he truly was like "so what can i do?"
I told him he could use insulin, trenbolone (they didn't have a test for it back then), gh and very low dose fast acting test....and that's it...otherwise he is going to flunk.
he was very distraught and said "I cant be a pro bodybuilder on that...damn what am i going to do?!"
He didnt listen and kept doing his thing...flunked 1 or two more tests and the judge revoked his probation and sent him to prison (lomptoc) for the rest of his probation period (2 years and a couple months if I remember right).
I dont know how a human body could take that kind of abuse. He did have massive trouble with estrogen (in my opinion) he was taking site specific things like nolvadex but compounds like arimidex and aromasin werent available then....and he was having some weeping fits on his couch.....we were dating the same girl for a time....and we both knew another fitness girl very well (and she also told me about the emotional problems he had too at times)
Just a full out junkie...both bbing wise and party drug wise.
The other guy I really dont want to talk about because he is a current pro....he learned his lesson almost the hard way...went up to 13 grams of stuff and started to have some serious ankle edema which highlighted very acute kidney problems.....and he had to pull out of a major show....and get himself in check quickly or his life and career as he knew it would be changed pronto....he dropped the trainer that he had that is kind of known as abusive...went with a new one that is known to be much more conservative with his approach and got himself and his career back to square one.