how much seo precontest do you guys use?

[weight]

heard of guys hitting a muscle with mutiple shots precontest all over there body to really get that ext pump look before the show, some just hit the muscles that need it cuz it suks? just curious how some of you guys and do it, plan and time it, start it and finish it?

 

[Thick1]

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[weight]

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i know about it, i know big a protocol for the grwoth im referiing to seo use precontest for max size at the time

 

[maldorf]

i know about it, i know big a protocol for the grwoth im referiing to seo use precontest for max size at the time

I dont know much at all about competing but I thought I might add something from my experience. I dont think I would enter a contest during the time period that your are reall actively injecting, such as the end period where you are using 3cc's per injection. The reason is that I feel that the swelling you get at that time can be unnatural looking and might be detrimental. If anything, I would wait till the maintenance phase where some of that swelling has gone down. JMO, and I dont have any contest experience whatsoever but did use synthek once and was happy with the results.

 

[tenny]

i dont use it precontest......or ever

never use the stuff....if you need it .......your genetics are less than par

 

[liftalot79]

I heard good things about it

I know guys that use it that have Great Genetics two guys at my Gym both Heavy sorry one is Light Heavy and One is Heavy. The Light Heavy has his procard the Heavy is on his way hopefully this upcoming year.

With talking to these guys they never had used just before a Show. But they have good things to say about it.

 

[weight]

correct if ya use it the day or day before show or even 3rd day before it can make uneven looks, ive found that after thoe it seems to level out so theres seems to be a good timing to it, ive read that some olympia contestants got alot shots put in prior to the show

 

[Pain]

I've heard of this Italian stuff that came in amps (forgive me for not doing my research on the name of it) but it was not an oil, I don't think. All it did was temporarily inflame the muscle to give it a rounder, fuller look. I heard from one pro that he saw guys, in an IFBB contest in Eastern Europe where there are not a whole lot of rules, using the stuff right after weigh-ins back stage.
I might imagine such practices are not totally out of the realm of possibility today. Though probably not right back stage lol

 

[7_Deadly_Sins]

i dont use it precontest......or ever

never use the stuff....if you need it .......your genetics are less than par

So Phils and the countless other pros have sub par genetics?
ok.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Yes

I've heard of this Italian stuff that came in amps (forgive me for not doing my research on the name of it) but it was not an oil, I don't think. All it did was temporarily inflame the muscle to give it a rounder, fuller look. I heard from one pro that he saw guys, in an IFBB contest in Eastern Europe where there are not a whole lot of rules, using the stuff right after weigh-ins back stage.
I might imagine such practices are not totally out of the realm of possibility today. Though probably not right back stage lol

Esiclene.....big in my day.........I know 4-5 pros that has 50-60CCs in them before a show

 

[jm425]

I've heard of this Italian stuff that came in amps (forgive me for not doing my research on the name of it) but it was not an oil, I don't think. All it did was temporarily inflame the muscle to give it a rounder, fuller look. I heard from one pro that he saw guys, in an IFBB contest in Eastern Europe where there are not a whole lot of rules, using the stuff right after weigh-ins back stage.
I might imagine such practices are not totally out of the realm of possibility today. Though probably not right back stage lol

It's called caverject. It's what nassar used before he stepped on stage at the Olympia. The availability of caverject these days is scarce and if you do happen to find some then it's very expensive.

 

[craig3758]

nolitol works as well

 

[musicmann89]

It's called caverject. It's what nassar used before he stepped on stage at the Olympia. The availability of caverject these days is scarce and if you do happen to find some then it's very expensive.

easy to find if you look in the right places, but yes price isnt exactly cheap

 

[Designbuilt]

Escilene, is now out of production. Caverject is for impotence, hence the name Caver- (cavernosis) ject. But that is very expensive. A good 40-75 dollars/ shot. I've heard that Nolotil is very good but quite painful. I did a great deal of research on it, most of it sounded promissing but then it came to a sudden halt as of about 2 years ago.

But I've read that it can actually increase the definition and hardness of the muscle and it's pretty inexpensive. As for the bad, I've read that it causes pain and a sickley feeling. The effects from what I've read last a good 4 days.

 

[maldorf]

It's called caverject. It's what nassar used before he stepped on stage at the Olympia. The availability of caverject these days is scarce and if you do happen to find some then it's very expensive.

Isnt that a drug that was prescribed for erectile dysfunction? You had to inject it into your penis.

 

[Phidias]

It's called caverject. It's what nassar used before he stepped on stage at the Olympia. The availability of caverject these days is scarce and if you do happen to find some then it's very expensive.

As stated by Designbuilt and Maldorf, Caverject (alprostadil) is used specifically for erectile dysfunction when pills like Viagra or the likes don't work. There is absolutely no problem of availibility since it's produced in massive amounts and sold in every country (ED is a HUGE market all over the world )... all you need is a script and a good insurance to pay for it.

 

[craig3758]

nolitol isnt no more painful than ED shots of seo.works quite well w/seo in fact

 

[jm425]

Sorry guys, I mean to say esiclene as Phil pointed out. Esiclene is what causes inflammation in the muscle, causing it to look bigger although be it temporary. Pros did use it back in the day to bring out lagging muscles for shows.