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I always get approval from Big A before posting and he has never once told me that I couldn't post up on something that I asked him about so I am going to break the rule this time so that I don't again forget to post this. If this is not kosher with Big A or any of the mods I apologize and understand that it will be removed, asap.

I have seen alot of posts over the last year of guys that have blood panels that are attrocious. I mean no disrespect at all by saying this and I am only posting up because I can help. In fact, I help all the time.

For about the last 9 months or so I have started taking on clients in addition to contest prep/nutritional consulting simply to get their blood work under control as quickly as possible. Alot of these situations are guys that want to STAY ON AND KEEP USING AND MORE THAN A HANDFUL HAVE CONTINUED TO STAY ON FOR THE DURATION while bringing their bloodwork under control.

I get guys approaching me all of the time saying things like "I know that I have to get off the gear but I don't want to...." In most cases you don't have to. Would it be better to get off to get your blood panel under control. Hell yes. Is everyone going to want to come off? HELL NO. We all know of more than one guy that keeps denying that he has potential health problems and either doesn't get the blood work done or simply denies the results and down plays them every single time.

I am posting this up because I have seen alot of these posts and they seem to be increasing. You absolutely can get your blood work in check much quicker than most think and most can do it while still being "on". No, it probably won't be your usual suicide cycle but you can still be on and getting the results you need from the gear to satiate the ego.

Oh, and I have seen ALT 3 times higher than that and then seen it come down quickly after only a month. Alot factors into that read from working out to niacin dosing to orals to even whether you are dealing with the muscle "trauma" of an inject that day.

If anyone is interested in discussing your personal situation or you have questions, please feel free to contact me at:

[email protected]

There is no good reason to have poor blood work. Take the time and effort and put it into your health.

Skip
 
If I had this knowledge, I'd post it up free to help the health of the bodybuilding community. But I guess some people are out to make a buck and that's all that counts in their world.
 
yeah no shit...If this is an ad i think u need permission..If you are here to HELP...then do that...:confused:
 
Well.... lol .... Not exactly the response I expected. I guess everything is free these days and I don't have a client load that needs my attention. I have all day to post on the boards and pretend to be other people, much like yourself, huh TOM? I am just glad that you found a site that doesn't ban you 5 times in a year. You are a class act.

Every person's situation is different and every person's blood work, diet, lifestyle, etc., is different. If it were that easy to post up what everyone should do, it wouldn't take alot of my time so I wouldn't charge at all for it. I have done TONS of work on alot of sites for FREE for years and still do. TOM, you should be as respectful to me on the open board as you are in PMs when you need or want something from me.

As I said, if this is out of line, it will be deleted.

Skip
 
no skip... not outta line.. those guys are...

i would say you are posting something WELL overdue...

blood work is VERY VERY important...


all i ever see TOM post is flaming JUNK that isnt even worth reading... not to be rude.. but its the truth.... and nice 4th POST THERE IRONWILL.... evidentally you 2 nincompoops dont see that skip is offering some great free advice...

THANKS SKIP!! thanks for caring, and shedding some light on a subject that needed to be shed upon....
 
I think its a great Idea.

Im not One that would ever need a Contest prep or someone to line me out a Cutting cycle...BUT I would deffinatley be interested in Having Skip in my Corner to Help With my nutrition,Training and Individual time and attention
to Help me do Such things as read and Understand Bloodwork results In Private And Make adjustments as needed. The Older I get the Less I like having my personal bussiness
out in the open. Dont get me wrong I think its great the guys that are having it done and sharing, its helped me realize how important it is.
 
Skip said:
Well.... lol .... Not exactly the response I expected. I guess everything is free these days and I don't have a client load that needs my attention. I have all day to post on the boards and pretend to be other people, much like yourself, huh TOM? I am just glad that you found a site that doesn't ban you 5 times in a year. You are a class act.

Every person's situation is different and every person's blood work, diet, lifestyle, etc., is different. If it were that easy to post up what everyone should do, it wouldn't take alot of my time so I wouldn't charge at all for it. I have done TONS of work on alot of sites for FREE for years and still do. TOM, you should be as respectful to me on the open board as you are in PMs when you need or want something from me.

As I said, if this is out of line, it will be deleted.

Skip

I can say this much.....

I think its nice of Skip to offer help with something like this. I also don't recall seeing anything about Skip asking for money. However, I think if someone worked with you on your diet to help get some things in line and came up meal plans..ect, that IS worth money. So take it for whatever its worth but I honestly think Skip is just trying to help.
 
AWN2004 said:
I can say this much.....

I think its nice of Skip to offer help with something like this. I also don't recall seeing anything about Skip asking for money. However, I think if someone worked with you on your diet to help get some things in line and came up meal plans..ect, that IS worth money. So take it for whatever its worth but I honestly think Skip is just trying to help.

Skip wants money and why shouldnt he , if people are going to pay him for advice then so be it , I dont think he deserves to get bashed for trying to make a buck , sure Skip wants to help but in order for his help you must 1st pay him, Im not sure how this thread could be classified as him helping out? the only help he'll provide is for money so no this thread isnt about him helping out,,, well not unless you havea credit card , Skip just being honest here but dont you think this belongs on your site? just my thoughts , I do hope people listen and get there blood work done and those whose are out of control should be advised by a DR.
 
Vander_V said:
Skip wants money and why shouldnt he , if people are going to pay him for advice then so be it , I dont think he deserves to get bashed for trying to make a buck , sure Skip wants to help but in order for his help you must 1st pay him, Im not sure how this thread could be classified as him helping out? the only help he'll provide is for money so no this thread isnt about him helping out,,, well not unless you havea credit card , Skip just being honest here but dont you think this belongs on your site? just my thoughts , I do hope people listen and get there blood work done and those whose are out of control should be advised by a DR.


Funny how the Only two guys that have a problem with it Have a Past with Skip. Anyone that follows this board will figure that out quik.
So Vander And Tougholdman dont Like Skip :p Thats Nothing new.
werent you both Banned or Atleast Bashed all to hell on his board?

Skips a Good honest fella. Ive known him for a long time from the forums as well as a few Mods of his and There a great group of guys imho.
 
I dont think Tom means it the way it sounds I guess. He just seems like he tells it like it is. But he may be wrong in what he thinks it sounds like skip is offer to help people get their bloodwork back to normal not sell bloodwork cycles and vitamin combos. Maybe posting a basic panel reading that would benefit everyone in the articles section would not give people the impression that skip is just trying to sell or advertise something.

Everyone is different but certain things would bring down certain levels and certain dosages together would do it stuff like that. Now days you cant blame people for being skeptics some people will try to sell ice to a eskimo. ETC. MM
 
rAJJIN said:
Funny how the Only two guys that have a problem with it Have a Past with Skip. Anyone that follows this board will figure that out quik.
So Vander And Tougholdman dont Like Skip :p Thats Nothing new.
werent you both Banned or Atleast Bashed all to hell on his board?

Skips a Good honest fella. Ive known him for a long time from the forums as well as a few Mods of his and There a great group of guys imho.
;) ;)
 
i have said it a hundred times along with a few others.. there is no excuse for not knowing your bllod work and there is no excuse for not having a decent profile.. all that needs to happen is simple adjustments and various supplementation.. get it done and under control.. and one last time.. DOES AnYONE REAlly NEED ORALS??? THEY ARE AWEFUL.. and for most taking only 500 mgs of niacin is not going cut it.. 1500 mgs is the norm.. if not more in some cases.. most people do not need 100 mgs of a50 or 50 mgs of dbol.. think about what that crap can do to your profile.. ill stick to injectables thank you..
 
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Hey Skip when was the last time your lawyer gave you free advice? How about your stock brocker? Did your Doc let you come into his office and ask him about your hemroids?

The answer is NO!!! Why would someone who is an expert in a field be expected to give it away free. That individual has spent years of his life perfecting his craft. Time is money and expect to pay, especially when its good.

I feel sorry for Phil, Skip, and the others who get this abuse.

Its your health do what you will with it.
 
To answer a few questions:

I don't post anything at all about gear at IM. We have a policy of no talk at all about gear so I have posted this on a couple boards including PM.

I do a lot of work for FREE and always have but this is also my job in that it feeds my kids, pays my mortgage and puts drinks in my wife's mouth on Saturday night. You all have a job and so do I. I was simply posting that I have had very good success with getting client's bloodwork turned around in a very short amount of time. If you don't need it or you don't want it, hey, that is fine. I was OFFERING to help and, yes, help for a fee. I certainly wasn't trying to "mask" anything with my post. I keep seeing threads with guys posting as if they are shocked that their blood work sucks and that they don't have any idea how to control it. Lats put it best - no one should be in that position.

Skip
 
Skip said:
...and puts drinks in my wife's mouth on Saturday night....


Always a good measuring tool as to whether or not you are providing enough for your family! :D


I like your posts, Skip, and your attitude as well; BUT you guys over at IM are almost amusing. You're like the "Muscle and Fitness" of BB boards over there. Let's not talk about AAS, but lets put someone who is currently incarcerated for possession/distribution of AAS on our banner! :p

IM is a great board, but more candid discussion about AAS/slin/gh would be great. Just because you would be discussing their use doesn't mean you have to have "sponsors" or allow open source discussion/posting/requesting.

With the great info over there I'm sure it would be a great board to learn from about proper AAS useage, especially with top-notch guys like yourself guiding those that have questions.

And Vander, why are you so down on Skip for offering his services for those who need them? Weren't you the one posting on here asking "How much should I get out of this video deal?"? You mean you're not just willing to "help them out" by doing it for free? I happen to work for an apparell manufacturing firm and we could use a good model to help us launch a new men's line. I think you'd be great. We can't pay you anything, but come on V, help us out.

You can damn sure bet if my blood tests come back AFU I will be paying Skip his fee and be damn thankful there is someone who can get me back on track. You can't put a price on health.

And anyone else on here that is bashing Skip for his post...are any of you guys carpenters/contractors/sub-contractors? I'm building a house right now and I need you guys to "help" a bro out.;)
 
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wow

skip, thanks for offering to help us guys out. if my health were of concern i would definately pay you to help me...i respect you a lot bro

to anyone that wants something for nothing...go out and spend the time and money to educate yourself about how to do what skip does, then offer it for free to dumbass freeloaders looking for something for nothing...
 
I think its good to have this kind of balance. Their is nothing wrong with some one trying to make a buck. If we have guys profiting off gear, why not health? I have no problem with it.
 
Skip said:
Well.... lol .... Not exactly the response I expected. I guess everything is free these days and I don't have a client load that needs my attention. I have all day to post on the boards and pretend to be other people, much like yourself, huh TOM? I am just glad that you found a site that doesn't ban you 5 times in a year. You are a class act.

Every person's situation is different and every person's blood work, diet, lifestyle, etc., is different. If it were that easy to post up what everyone should do, it wouldn't take alot of my time so I wouldn't charge at all for it. I have done TONS of work on alot of sites for FREE for years and still do. TOM, you should be as respectful to me on the open board as you are in PMs when you need or want something from me.

As I said, if this is out of line, it will be deleted.

Skip
Well sorry Skip. I still think this is one of those things that so many people need that if it were I, I would post it up free to help.

There's a big difference in charging for training and one health. If someone is training there not going to die from doing it the wrong way. But if one's blood work is way out, this can lead to disaster.

Now as for being banned from a lot of sites 5 times a year, I've been banned from this site for 30 days for slamming a few when going to bat for Iron Man. Your's is the only other site that I'm banned from. So how is it I can be nice to you via PM's when I can't even get on your site.

I don't get it. You guys give Skip so much credit. Why because he owns a site. When he comes to yours, he has only two things in mind that he does. One (1) promote his site in some form to make money...Two (2) bash someone. Didn't he just bash Vander and all Vander was doing is letting us know about a DVD that someone might do on him. Ghee your such a nice person Skip. Can I be your buddy?

If you liike, I would be more then happy to re join your site and we can have a tea party and talk about putting up a program to help those with bad blood work.
 
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guys, if you have no problem paying someone for training advice or precontest prep than certainly you should have no problem paying for advice that could prevent any serious health issues.. i would think that would be the first thing you would pay for..;)
 
in my opinion, this thread is very important because it could potentially save someone from spiraling down an unfortunate path, skip is simply providing a convenient avenue for someone in need, that might not have normally done anything about it until reading this thread...i think its a very good thing, health is much more important than diet/training advice,
 
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