IGF-1 LR3 Before Bed?

[A50#]

Anyone else noticed how tired you become following an injection of IGF-1 LR3? You feel great, but want to sleep for 4-5 more hours. Since I do my workouts at night before bed, you think it would be alright to run the IGF-1 LR3 right before my workout, and then off to bed?

 

[dragonfire101]

I would say NO since the tired feeling you are getting is the Igf-1 having some of the same effects as insulin. You want to make sure you wake up the next morning. On the other hand Im sure you eating carbs with it post workout and you most likely would be fine since the actions are not the same as insulin itself.

Thats my opinion though not a recommendation.

 

[BigWilly]

I think preworkout would be fine...

I've used it that way with great results

BW

 

[dragonfire101]

My bad, I thought you sAId right before bed. Pre workout YES, then eat, then bed.

 

[rAJJIN]

same here... Ill usually work out about 8pm
and I take it rite before.I Never realy noticed it Making me sleepy
like insulin does....lol Im on the High cal High fat diet though

 

[bigbaldbulldog]

Insulin makes me tired after a shot... IGF made me tired all day long no matter when i shot it...

 

[Triguy]

you guys dont get a blood sugar crash when u do igf b4 workout

 

[MikeS]

I would say NO since the tired feeling you are getting is the Igf-1 having some of the same effects as insulin. You want to make sure you wake up the next morning. On the other hand Im sure you eating carbs with it post workout and you most likely would be fine since the actions are not the same as insulin itself.

Thats my opinion though not a recommendation.

It increases insulin sensitivity. Its nowhere near as powerful as using actual insulin. There would be no risk of insulin shock at all.
However Id still use it preworkout IM in the muscle being trained.

 

[BigWilly]

It increases insulin sensitivity. Its nowhere near as powerful as using actual insulin. There would be no risk of insulin shock at all.
However Id still use it preworkout IM in the muscle being trained.

TRU!

 

[dragonfire101]

It increases insulin sensitivity. Its nowhere near as powerful as using actual insulin. There would be no risk of insulin shock at all.

I understand this, I did say and rephrase its not the same action as insulin itself and probably would not do anything if he did. I dont like taking anything that cause an increase insulin senstivity before bed it would just scare me. Then i would have to eat a bunch of carbs befor i went to bed and feel safe and then would wake up fat.

I was thinking of an article I read that said you have to be carful taking
IGF-1 wth insulin as it enhances the insulin actions and you will need more carbs than just taking insulin alone and it said something about being careful at bedtime if you take something like humalin late evening and your igf-1 also.

 

[JETHRO TULL]

Tired? No.

I know a guy who tried it last summer. He took it with nothing else and expirienced no tiredness.

 

[dragonfire101]

He took it with nothing else and expirienced no tiredness

Little off topic, but how were the results by itself.

 

[rAJJIN]

I was thinking of an article I read that said you have to be carful taking
IGF-1 wth insulin as it enhances the insulin actions and you will need more carbs than just taking insulin alone and it said something about being careful at bedtime if you take something like humalin late evening and your igf-1 also.

Yes I would say thats safe to say....
If your Using the lr3 AND insulin then thats another story imo

 

[JETHRO TULL]

The results were good.

Little off topic, but how were the results by itself.

"He" wanted to see if he could feel, and see the results of the product all by itself. "He always does that with substances so that he knows what is creating the effect. The guy looked full and the veins were usually prominent. The diet stayed the same, etc. It was a 270$ expiriment that kept the fella looking pretty good during a break. It would be interesting to combine it with test and deca or dbol just to see what would happen.

I have a sneaking suspicion that everything works pretty well if a guy is eating enough.

 

[Kahn]

Does anybody have real numbers for us? Like what calories they are taking in and the weight change it caused. The look it gave you. The more info the better, too. Are there enough of us that we can list percentages of protein, fat, carbs, and the change the diet caused? Doses of course, too. I just placed an order but didn't have the extra for this. Its coming in a month or so if I'm lucky. I should have ordered before I started building the bike. My bad.

 

[maxsupplements]

well, i agree with what mikes said

i never noticed getting tired, but did notice and EXXTREME amount of the hunger... i could eat a freakin trainload of food folllowing my workout.. i workout in the later of the day, and did my injections of 40mgc perday in the muscles i was gonna train that day.. so if it was bi's i would do them before the workout.. i did find that my pumps would last for hours on end when i did the inj. pre-w/o.. and when i did them post-w/o i didnt notice the pump lasting as long. when i ran it i went from 10% bf to 6% bf in like 45 days. i ran it only on training days, and only inj. 40mcg into each pair of muscles that would be trained that day.. my diet was like around 250 gr protein, carbs were cycled and on training days i would eat in excess of 400 gr carbs.. sometimes 600 gr carbs.. i noticed when i ate more carbs training days, i would get better pumps. and i dont really keep track of my fats too well, but mind you i was trying to diet down for the summer, and i must say, i got some serious compliments.. and i was running it as a add on to my PCT. my gains from that cycle stayed after the IGF ended, but i did lose the SUPER vascularity.. i have never seen so many veins on my body.. it was crazy looking, kinda cartoonish.. and it was nice to be soo FULL and not so bloated.. as if the muscles were the only things that were pumped..

 

[Triguy]

.......not to hijack this thread slin use with IGF is to suppress igf binding proteins? & to keep igf bioactive longer?

 

[bigbaldbulldog]

great topic and i am seeing soem new ideas and info...for me atleast..keep them coming

I know that calories and IGF are weird..i kept my cals at or above my BMR of 2200 and increased it only by 500...i did not make gaisn off of IGF per say but i got leaner harder...it changed my body comp and bodyfat ratio %..

If any of followed my experiment over the summer i did oral-IGF/oral HGH and gained about 12-15 lbs off of that and here it is almost 2 months later and i have kept all teh weight..

 

[A50#]

This is my 3rd run with IGF-1LR3 (IGtropin) and I've noticed the tiredness everytime. It's not like a "not enough sleep" tired, it's more like a lethargic fatigue. It's really the only side effect I've noticed. This time I'm running it for 21 days, I've started at 50mcg and will go up 60mcg the second week and end the third week at 70mcg daily. The positive effect noted so far has been a dramatic increase in hunger, 8 lb weight gain, HUGE Pumps!, and a "roundness" and "fullness" in my muscles like I've never seen before.

 

[BigWilly]

The positive effect noted so far has been a dramatic increase in hunger, 8 lb weight gain, HUGE Pumps!, and a "roundness" and "fullness" in my muscles like I've never seen before.

same here