JUICE ADDICT ??

bigbaldbulldog · Oct 28, 2004

We can all joke and laugh about using gear but when it comes right down to it how many of us have tried to stop but couldn't stay off or just never even thought about coming off ?? How many guys are past the point of when they said they would stop and how long past ??

Maverick · Oct 28, 2004

well when I was younger I didn't stay off for more than a month becuase i felt like I was shrinking but I have been off more than a year until just recently and now that i am back on i feel my gains are like they were when i took my first shot. After 2-3 years of never coming off and then coming off for a year totally , I can honeslty say it works. I never would have believed it and at first when i did it sucked ass but I belive I am better off for it.

Maverick

BigBoyJ · Oct 28, 2004

Well, if your health is good and you're not concerned with hpta because you don't want kids, then why come off? I like being on and I feel better physically and mentally when I'm on. If there's ever a health problem that necessitates me getting off, I will. But if not, I'm probably just going to stay on all the time and just drop the dose to about 200 mg of test per week as bridges between the larger cycles.

Coopie · Oct 28, 2004

I am 33 years old now and I started using AS after about 10 years of natural training. Therefore I had a really solid base of muscle prior to my AS usage.

For the first three years of my AS use I stayed on 365 days a year. I didn't want to come off because the transformation I was seeing was amazing. I didn't realize the difference between "natural" and "enhanced" until I became "enhanced". Then I started thinking smart (about my future health), and began cycling between on and off.

I spent the next few years with 6 months on and 6 months off. Always using extensive PCT. This gave me solid gains and the mental confidence that I was not damaging my body.

When I hit 30 years old everything changed. The PCT was not as useful in getting my natural test back, and I suffered by losing gains I had made while on. This takes an emotional toll - I hate losing gains!

So, now I do 9 months on and 3 months off. I'm ready to be off for December, January, and February. Will use HCG, Nolva, and Clomid (plus Cialis) and keep my fingers crossed that I don't shrink up too badly.

It sucks getting old!

BUT - here's the key... For most of us this is nothing more than a mental thing. As my wife points out, even when I'm off I am still bigger than 95 % of all the jokers we see in the gym every day. So I may not be as "freakishly big" as I want to be, but I have to learn that just being "big" is good enough for a few months if it means living longer and happier...

Sorry for the long post

Queefer · Oct 28, 2004

Nicely worded there Coopie.

slabsofabs · Oct 28, 2004

issues?

issues here anyone?

bigbaldbulldog · Oct 28, 2004

we all know the physical addicting aspect gains and gains lost but lets talk about the emotional rollercoaster we take when we try to come off...is the emotional addiction harder for you to deal with then the "physical addicting" ??

MikeS · Oct 28, 2004

At 46 (this Dec) I just tell people Im on for life. Why crash out? I may just go to HRT doseages (200mg wk or so) in the end. Thats what I do when I bridge. This last bridge (ending next week) lasted 3mo. And on 1amp wk I
feel pretty good, keep most of my gains, cant complain. Once a cycle starts I will fill out nice, and get stronger. Then Im really happy!

slabsofabs · Oct 28, 2004

are they a crutch?

are you strong without steroids? Can you live the same way without them?
Do you consider them a crutch?

A great question is what is the reason that you take steroids? When you get past the initial reactions of "To get big" and "Because to be competitive you have to" you will find very interesting answers.