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just a rant

joshbarnett

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i am tired of reading how people cant get any bigger then the first thing they list is their cycles of what drugs they take!!! it drives me nuts. i would be willing to bet they either dont eat enough or dont train hard enough/smart enough. the way i look at it is if i am not gaining/growing the way i want then i need to find a way to get more quality calories in me. simple as that. quit looking for the easy way(drugs) out and focus on nutrition and training. anybody can take more test but not everyone is willing to sacrifice the time and energy to pre prepare meals etc and train hard. JMO
 
Excellent rant Josh. I could have not said it better. I think some are in denial when it comes to certain things such as genetics. They just do not want to accept there is a limitation and not everyone will be of the elite group. Its just not drugs that make a Pro a Pro. Again like you said diet is crucial and just the right training stimuli is very important also.
The over emphasis on protien is also not necassary as overall calories, carbs and fat are just as important.

RC
 
Great post Josh ..............Food is the most anabolic substance period ..............I have 3 guys that work security that are 6'4 427 , 6'3 434 , and the one 6'4 408 ........these guys are huge and yeah they are fat ......but they are reasonabily athletic [ all have played semi pro football , can fight , and bench over 500 lbs ] .......they are huge and when they are in the same room they make me feel tiny ......they like to sandwhich me and call me skinny .......It is funny, they call guys under 230 skinny guys ....lol anyway ,tonight we were just sitting around talking and trading ideas ......and one of my other guys that is lean at almost 6'5 270 sayes what do think about this cycle? And I say ,"what does your diet look like ?" I said food is the key ...."bbing is more of a battle of the knife and fork more than anything else " I said ,repeating something cool that I read somewhere before......lol .....I said ,"think about our big boys here ,if they all dieted down ,they would still be over 280 easy , and there training is shit , and they like to party .........and they would still be monsters lean with maybe a few workouts a week........" What is the key to there great size ? easy .......FOOD .......they each proablly eat 800 to a 1000 grams of protien a day ......and probally 7000 - 8000 kals ........he smiled and said," it looks like my food bill is going to go up "and I said, " it looks like I will soon have another 300 lber working for me ".......lol........food is key..........drugs are so not the answer ....but when I was young I thought they were the key too .....I thought there were secrets .......in reality , the only secrets were the things that went on the guys did to live the bbing lifestyle .......progessive resistance and great eating were the real keys ..........drugs are about a 10 % advantage in the genetically gifted and a 25 % to the less gifted in my expirence generally ..............Food constancy is most of the game period .........
 
great post josh

(and iabadman)

it amazes me the dosages that i read on here sometimes. i got to 280 pounds on 1 gram a week TOTAL. genetics, time, and discipline make a good bodybuilder. no amount of drugs will make up for a lack in those areas.
 
you guys talking about me? j/k I know what you mean but I'm not looking for more drugs. I just can't get my shit together right now and it bums me out.I have a ton of shit going on and its too hard. Its good to see someone else say that when thats how I think.
 
iabadman-good post i train with a guy name doug ahr. he is a former pro strongman. he is 6'8" and was weighing around 450 while he was competing(now weighs about 400) so i know how small they can make you feel lol


i tell people all the time to sit down and re-evaluate your training and diet whether you are trying to get big or get ripped. sure AAS help increase protein synthesis(not saying they dont work) but you gotta get that protein in first and then a ton of high quality carbs and good fats. and dont overtrain!!
 
Great post man. There are few threads up now about this, but post like these pop up all the time......most of the time you see threads "how big will I get if I take XXX" and you ask whats your diet and training look like and some guys get offended like you insulted them or told them they don't know shit about lifting and dieting. Oh well....Good post man. I'm sure alot of guys here were thinking the same thing.
 
joshbarnett said:
i am tired of reading how people cant get any bigger then the first thing they list is their cycles of what drugs they take!!! it drives me nuts. i would be willing to bet they either dont eat enough or dont train hard enough/smart enough. the way i look at it is if i am not gaining/growing the way i want then i need to find a way to get more quality calories in me. simple as that. quit looking for the easy way(drugs) out and focus on nutrition and training. anybody can take more test but not everyone is willing to sacrifice the time and energy to pre prepare meals etc and train hard. JMO


Very good post! MANY under eat and dont train properly.
 
It's always been about the food / calories and that's what most people lack. They have the fortitude to train, the willingness to lift ungodly poundages, the balls to stick a substance in thier body that will untlimately fuck with thier hormones down the road, but not the guts to eat tons of food.

It wasn't until I started eating like a sum-bitch (hee hee) that I even gained some results. Thanks to reading articles by DC, Phil and others here I learned that a very simple component holding my gains back was bring the fork to my mouth - OFTEN - and hitting my body hard as often as possible without overtraining. Maybe one day I'll hit 260. LOL.
 
Food is the key. That's why I like EQ so much. When that stuff kicks in you can't help but grow. Train hard and the pounds will come with that stuff. It will make SURE you get enough calories to gain mass.:D
 

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