Masteron and Equipoise to control estrogen

[juiceball44]

Was everything else consistent?

On 250mg test c a week (125mg 2x) no ai
total test lc/ms was 1516 ng/dl
free test 70 ng/dl
Estradiol sensitive 45.5 pg/ml

On 700/700 test c/primo (100mg each daily) no ai
total test ms 3966 ng/dl
free test 137.6 ng/dl
Estradiol ultra sensitive lc/ms 38 pg/ml

 

[slesh]

On 250mg test c a week (125mg 2x) no ai
total test lc/ms was 1516 ng/dl
free test 70 ng/dl
Estradiol sensitive 45.5 pg/ml

On 700/700 test c/primo (100mg each daily) no ai
total test ms 3966 ng/dl
free test 137.6 ng/dl
Estradiol ultra sensitive lc/ms 38 pg/ml

I meant like body fat, cardio, training, etc. Not doubting your numbers I just like to make sure it’s an apples to apples comparison.

 

[juiceball44]

I meant like body fat, cardio, training, etc. Not doubting your numbers I just like to make sure it’s an apples to apples comparison.

Oh definitely was a little higher body fat on the 250mg test. Everything else similar I always do cardio and training frequency is always the same

 

[slesh]

Oh definitely was a little higher body fat on the 250mg test. Everything else similar I always do cardio and training frequency is always the same

Nice dude - even with “higher” body fat you don’t aromatize that much.

 

[juiceball44]

Nice dude - even with “higher” body fat you don’t aromatize that much.

Yeah seems like it. I’m lowering the primo and adding in some npp starting low for a mass phase as I just dieted from January to April. Gonna retest estradiol in 3-4 weeks I hear 60-80 is a sweet spot for growing for a lot of people

 

[Doitagain]

Drostanolone was found NOT to compete with estrogen receptors. Therefore it is unlikely that the growth inhibitory effect of drostanolone in human breast cancer is mediated through competition with estradol binding proteins as suggested earlier by some authors (SERM-like effect). It rather decrease E2's expression on the cell membrane.

 

[Doitagain]

This is to say that if your bloodwork shows E2 a little above where you normally like to keep it at and you're using Masteron, don't freak out and immediately increase your AI dose. The blood level of estradiol may be normal or slightly elevated, but the estrogen doesn't exert its effects as it'd normally do since its receptor is "less sensitive", in very simple words.

 

[LATS]

This is to say that if your bloodwork shows E2 a little above where you normally like to keep it at and you're using Masteron, don't freak out and immediately increase your AI dose. The blood level of estradiol may be normal or slightly elevated, but the estrogen doesn't exert its effects as it'd normally do since its receptor is "less sensitive", in very simple words.

Exactly

 

[A50#]

On 700mg test c and 700mg primo (100mg each everyday) no ai my estradiol was 38

On 250mg test c a week by itself estradiol was 45

Very interesting. 600mg TEST Cyp per week my estradiol was 51...when I added PRIMO @ 400mg week my estradiol went to 38

 

[LATS]

Very interesting. 600mg TEST Cyp per week my estradiol was 51...when I added PRIMO @ 400mg week my estradiol went to 38

That's about the level that happens to me. I convert much more.. but 400mg primo will drop me roughly 12 to 15 points

 

[cesarpaiva]

i was on 600mg test and 300mg mast, added 300mg EQ and my e2 crashed! went back to 200mg eq and it got okish

 

[Boris Yakenov]

Something to keep in mind - having E2 at that number isn’t necessarily a bad thing. It’s more about the ratio with your Test and how lean you are. I can be on 2 grams of Test and have an E2 reading of 175 and still feel/look awesome. Don’t just nuke your E2 based on the number alone - other factors to consider as well…

Ok..but Not everyone is like that…some people experience symptoms of high e2!

 

[slesh]

Ok..but Not everyone is like that…some people experience symptoms of high e2!

Did he say he had symptoms of high E2? Take your post count bullshit elsewhere Boris.