Mega Dosing Fish Oil

[gten79]

I ran across this and was curious to hear if you guys have any of the same experiences with this type of protocol.


Originally Posted by Charles Poliquin

In many seminars, I always get asked which supplements are best to gain mass. My answers will surprise many of you.

Here they are:

1. Fish Oil

What? Fish oil? That is not cool, avant-garde, sexy, or exotic. Fish oil?

Yes. Fish oil. You cannot be anabolic with enough Omega 3s. For example, I was once training a first-round pick for the NFL. He put on 29 lbs of lean body mass in one month once I jacked his fish oil intake to 45 grams a day. If you want to put muscle on and lose fat, take at least 30 grams of fish oil a day.

Additional reasons for using fish oil include:

It reduces inflammation.
It improves insulin sensitivity: makes glucose and amino acids get better in your starved muscle cells.


Taking fish oil in a liquid form is the most economical way of doing it. But taking them every meal works best. I always recommend a combination of liquid and capsules - Liquid for home meals, and capsules for away from home meals.

 

[gten79]

10 Reasons Fish Oils are Essential
By: Charles Poliquin

Fish oils, rich in the Omega-3 fatty acids may help prevent depression, stabilize the moods of maniac-depressives, and alleviate symptoms of schizophrenia.
University of California's Johnsson Cancer Center, Los Angeles, CA health.com


Fish oils is one of the few substances known to lower concentrations of triglycerides (fatty substances) that pose a cardiovascular risk, in the blood.
J Raloff Science News


Increasing the amount of Omega-3 fatty acids has direct effects on serotonin levels.
Andrew Stoll M.D.1999 Archives of General Psychiatry


Fish oils, eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) help prevent heart disease, depression, and cancer.
Hans R. Larsen, Msc chE "Fish Oils: The Essential Nutrients" International Health News


Research has shown that supplementation with fish oils can markedly reduce interlukin-1beta production and results in a significant reduction in morning stiffness and the number of painful joints in rheumatoid arthritis patients.
Darlington, L Gail and Stone, Trevor W. Antioxidants and fatty acids in the amelioration of rheumatoid arthritis and related disorders. British Journal of Nutrition, Vol. 85, March 2001, pp.251-69. Oilofpisces.com


Several clinical trials have concluded that eating fish regularly or supplementing with fish oils can reduce the risk of sudden cardiac death by as much as 50%.
Bigger,J. Thomas and El-Sherif, Tarek. Polyunsaturated fatty acids and cardiovascular events: a fish tale. Circulation, Vol.103, February 6, 2001, pp623-25 (editorial). Oilofpisces.com


Researchers at Mayo Clinic report that supplementation with fish oils, EPA and DHA is highly effective in slowing down the progression of IgA nephropathy, a common kidney disease.
Donadio, James V.,et al. A controlled trial of fish oil in IgA nephropathy. New England Journal of Medicine, Vol 331 November 3, 1994, pp1194-99 Van Ypersele de Strihou, Charles. Fish oil for IgA nephropathy? New England Journal of Medicine, Vol 331, November 3, 1994, pp 1227-29 (editorial). Oilofpisces.com


Epidemiological studies have shown that populations with a high intake of fish oils have a lower incidence of inflammatory diseases such as asthma.
Dry J. and Vincent D. Effect of a Fish oil diet on asthma: results of a 1-year double bind study. Int Arch Allerguy Appl Immurol, Vol.95, 1991,pp.156-57. Oilofpisces.com


Researchers at The University of Tromso now report that fish oil supplementation lowers blood pressure significantly in people with hypertension and has no effect on glucose control even in people with mid diabetes.
Toft, Ingrid, et al. Effects of n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids on glucose homeostasis and blood pressure in essential hypertension. Annals of Internal Medicine, Vol 123, No 12, December 15, 1995, pp 911-18. Connor, William E. Diabetes, fish oil, and vascular disease. Annals of Internal Medicine, Vol 123, No 12, December 15, 1995, pp950-52. Oilofpisces.com.


Medical researchers in New Zealand provide convincing evidence that an increased consumption of fish oils helps reduce the risk of developing prostate cancer.
Norrish, A,E, et al. Prostate cancer risk and consumption of fish oils: A dietary biomaker-based case-control study. British Journal of Cancer, Vol. 81, No.7, December 1999, pp.1238-42

 

[gten79]

I do also remember Phil saying all fish oils aren't created equally. Free radical damage is something to be congnizant of.

 

[Jarconis]

too much fish oil though, you will have blood clotting problems, so if you cut yourself, its gonna be a gusher!

 

[gten79]

I know Palumbo is a proponent of high amounts of efa's in one's diet. Also the amount of vit E would be extremely high as well.

 

[Dr.S]

too much fish oil though, you will have blood clotting problems, so if you cut yourself, its gonna be a gusher!

With all the high RBC and thick blood people around here, this shouldn't be too much of a problem

 

[inoverdrive]

hOLY CRAP, NOW i CAN JUST PUT FISH OIL IN WITH TEST SHOTS!!!! j/k!

 

[Sampson]

Thats a bit extreme, fish oils aren't part of his supplement line by any chance?!?!

 

[jayuk]

High dosing fishoils is dangerous in that they thin the blood. A case of too much of a good thing.......

 

[KillerStack]

There are other potential problems as well. Problems with the inflammatory response, psychiatric disturbances, heart palpitations, etc.

All things in moderation.

 

[jig]

Wow, never heard of such a thing. I take 1000mg cap a day. How much you guys take?

Jig

 

[Jarconis]

I just do 12 grams a day

 

[elvisman99]

I seen fish oils come in gel caps but do they come in a liquid that you would take like a shot?

 

[Mr_Magoo]

i mega-dose on fish oils occasionally, never had any problems, and if u r worried about thich blood from high RBC counts, fish oil will then your blood like aspirin without the side effects like GI bleeding

 

[Dr.S]

i mega-dose on fish oils occasionally, never had any problems, and if u r worried about thich blood from high RBC counts, fish oil will then your blood like aspirin without the side effects like GI bleeding

Bingo! fish oil and bromelain to help thin the blood after those Test/Eq cycles ...not to mention the other health benefits

 

[lookingforanedge]

How would you take 45 grams per day? That seems hard to do and not crap out oil.

I have been taking 8 grams per day and my last bowel movement had oil in the toilet. I can only imagine taking 5-6 times that amount.

I guess spaced all throughout the day and taken with meals but still that is a hell of a lot of fish oil....I may just have to try it

 

[FutureFreak]

I believe Charles P. advocated high dose fishoil to figure competitors for favorable fat loss and not focusing on hypertrophy etc... I did very high dose fishoil and omega-9 dosing and within 1 week I Looked HORRIBLE. Flat, no pump, dminished vascularity, just terrible cosmetic effect due to the inhibition to prostaglandins and other important growth factors needed for muscle growth. I soon dropped the omega-3 and omega-9's and added back red meat and eggs....VOILA! full, hard and leaner looking again. Translation = Be overall healthy and suppress inflammation, or have impressive muscles and growth, but lack longevity.......kind of a crap shoot.

 

[claymore]

Udo's oil

For the guys that haven't used it yet, i suggest you give it a try.

 

[GoneForever]

I take 6-8grams of fish oil daily with 1gram of krill oil and 3grams of evening primrose oil.

 

[BritishBruiser]

What Claymore said!

Udo's is fantastic. Cold pressed seed oils giving all the benefits of fish oil minus the methyl mercury.

Mercury is one of the most poisonous substances to the human body and with a methyl group attached it is exponentially more toxic.