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MMA training while on gear?

RIV

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i do some MMA training, mostley BJJ and muay thai, anyway i may have a fight coming up in a few months, but i was planning to be gearing up in a few months too. so my question is, would my gains be hurt by all the trainiing ( if any of you train in BJJ you know how a few minutes on the mat feel like hell) and that doesnt leave much time or energy for intense workouts. IVAN i know you fight, so i'd like a response from you

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I am a submission...

...fighter also and I don't remember a time I wasn't on before a fight.LOL The extra muscle mass will slow your stamina obviously like big ole Mark Coleman. Your gains won't be as great though as being on and having a bodybuilding training regimen. I know a lot of guys now using EPO for endurance before fights but, DO NOT suggest that.

RY
 

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i might just hold off on the gear, because like everyone else i wanna be huge, so i want max gains, although i am thinking about some winny to help prepare, what do you think about that?

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I would stick w/ anabolics that won't make you hold water so winv, Fina, primo etc are good choices. I found Fina and anavar to be GREAT before a show for obvious reasons.LOL

RY
 

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I know that the sudden increase in water weight can make you fatigue faster on the mat. Ivan and I have a buddy that plays Basketball at the college level(soon to be pro), and he started taking his 50mg D-bol Ed and he could only play for 4 minutes then sit for 2 to catch his breath. His body was not use to the 20lb body weight increase and he was getting tiered a lot faster. I know that Basketball does not take the physical demand of MMA and BJJ. I would not take the chance and go with...

I would stick with what RY said...FINA, ANAVAR, WINNY, EQ, HALOS 3 weeks before the match.

I am almost 90% sure that is when he took the TEST HYPTLATE
GOOD GOOD STUFF CLARK :)

Just my 0.02 hope it helps??
 
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Ivan

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ok

When I fought I experimented with diff. gear.....I found that Halo at 50mg ED stacked with EQ, and some test at lower doses --- was the best...switching to suspension 2 days before.

Dbol and heavy doses of test will cause to much water retention and during a fight this will END you ---- 'less you knock 'em out quickly.....

I think this is the best fighter's cocktail ---

GH
Test prop at 100mg EOD
FINA 75 ED
Halo 50mg ED

Get the best joint meds you can get --- this is very important....


RY -- who do you fight for? I took 2nd in the FFC II (freestyle fighitng sub.wrestling) ---but the dude I lost to is Florida's light heavy champ -- AND he got a bye so he only had to go through 2 guys, I had to go through 3....the fight went 20 minutes! He got me in a reverse keylock after my missed attempt on an ankle lock. He went to the hospital afterwards (there was striking allowed to the body) with broken ribs heh heh....

Riv -- good luck man, ASK ME ANYTHING man....

Ps --- I talked to Coleman while sitting in a hot tub drunk with him in Detroit KOTC. He told me about his fight w/ Pete Williams....
 

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My bad IVAN...I thought that is when you did the TEST HEPTYL...but that was during the wrestling season
 

Ivan

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Ya

I took the Heptylate during the season ( It is that I WISH I had prop EXCEPT THE HEP WORKED GREAT) But only 250mg a week...still had great results....

So all I am saying is that ideally it would be propionate as the ester of choice...Maybe sust if only administered 2x a week at lower doses...
 

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Re: ok

Actually right now I took time off cause wasn't enough time but, I used to do BJJ, Muay Thai then moved onto Shootfighting. My best friend is close w/ Lions Den and fight w/ Pete was a shock to a lot of people. But, there is a saying that ANYONE can get knocked out and beaten. I have been thinking bout training again to shoot for the UFC or better yet Pride but, not sure if I got that dedication w/ my chaotic life.LOL

RY

Ivan said:

RY -- who do you fight for? I took 2nd in the FFC II (freestyle fighitng sub.wrestling) ---but the dude I lost to is Florida's light heavy champ -- AND he got a bye so he only had to go through 2 guys, I had to go through 3....the fight went 20 minutes! He got me in a reverse keylock after my missed attempt on an ankle lock. He went to the hospital afterwards (there was striking allowed to the body) with broken ribs heh heh....

Riv -- good luck man, ASK ME ANYTHING man....

Ps --- I talked to Coleman while sitting in a hot tub drunk with him in Detroit KOTC. He told me about his fight w/ Pete Williams....
 

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i found in fights that fina while awesome for strength can hurt if it effects ur lower back and calf cramps like it does to some but then again ur a mean sob while on it so i believe the trade off is worthwhile, i wouldnt use winny bc many feel achy joints on it. believe it or not injectable 4-ad is very powerful and good 4 fights, u just gotta know how to prepare , pm if u need help. something like oral masteron can be very helpful
basically what everyone else said is good advice, stick to non- aromatizing androgenic compounds plus some shit like anavar for the increased atp production, that plus fina can be ridicoulous in combination, some eq if u didnt wan tto go the epo route could be helpful bc of its effects effect on rbc count
 

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