Well I have to watch what I say or else you will threaten to ban me because you have no sense of humer. As far as Phil goes, I just wanted him to quit giving us so much of his opinion as it is today and give us some of his thoughts as they were back then. I wasn't asking for his moral view of things I wanted the reality of what he was living back then. I can chose to make my own choices based on my goals, but don't live a certain life, reach the goals you had then preach to us how wrong it is to want the same goals. Maybe I should worry about if I don't feel like mowing the damn lawn or not, or working full time etc. At least in the middle of my wanting to reach my goals I didn't get the wife pregnant when I couldn't afford to, make her go get work so I didn't have to then cheat on her and dump her for some Coke whore once I reached my goals. Then go on to talk about how dedicating a few of my years that are in my 20s to a bodybuilding lifestyle is such a waste of time. Maybe he shouldn't bash the "bodybuilding lifestyle" so much but instead bash the lifestyle of recreational drugs, wife cheating all after deciding to have a kid. To me once he chose to have a kid, his goals should have siezed and he should have gone out and began a career at that point. At least I have alot of money, I'm in my 20s, I don't have any kids and my girlfriend has a good job of her own and doesn't depend on me for my money. I am free to spend a few years on my goals before I settle down. I wonder if Phil would do it all over again if he was back in time and knew what was ahead. All I asked was for him to give us young guys the knowledge of what he was, not what he is, so we can have a shot at our goals, I only asked him because he seems like he wants to help people on this board. I sure hope the people that pay him to train them are getting his full knowledge, because if they are just getting the way he feels about things today then they aren't getting their money's worth. I had respect for Phil so I wasn't going to add any more of my thoughts to this but you come on here and stir up the crap and act like I had no business even saying what I did to him even though I was trying to be as respectful as possible. I will quit posting after this as I am sure this will get me banned. Later