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Night time erections - supplements, etc?

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It was a joke. Sorry I forgot to put the laughing emoji at the end. Yeah crazy expensive. Definitely not worth it. My apologies.

I understand completely that you meant it as a joke. I was just trying to point out a cheaper alternative.

My personal experience to the OP is as follows: Like everything else in life, it depends. Your chance of getting normal erections back "naturally" depends on the duration and intensity of prior steroid use, and the amount of time, energy, and money that you are willing to devote to recovery.

I'm 53 now, and I've been using, and often abusing, testosterone and other steroids for the last 29 years of my life, except for the three years that I spent in Federal Prison for selling anabolic steroids and money laundering.

During those three years off testosterone and other steroids, I never had one good erection. Not ever. Not even once in three years.

When I got out of prison, and got back on TRT levels of testosterone, I immediately had erections again. And I have been on testosterone ever since, adding in other compounds from time to time.

It all depends on your personal situation and level of prior use. If you've been on gear for a long time, you may have to accept the reality, as many of us have, that your HPTA has been irreversibly damaged, you are now hypogonadal, and you will need to be on TRT for the rest of your life. Which is not such a bad thing at all, as many of us are in the same boat, and TRT is a lot more accepted today than it was in the past.

I understand your desire to let your system recover naturally, and I hope that it works out for you, and that your testosterone levels and erections return to normal.

But for me, three years of trying to recover naturally, and having no erections, was enough. I'll be on at least TRT for the rest of my life, and I can't imagine ever voluntarily going off testosterone again.

As always, your mileage may vary, and I wish you the best of luck in your recovery.
 

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I’d do a hormone panel to see how’s your body is recovering but in the mean time cialis does me wonders. The wind blows in my direction I’m good to go
I have considered Cialis but I am concerned about creating a dependency.

whats the reason for cming off completely and not to trt levels? It is healthier and you would still maintain your nighttime stands
Staying on just wasnt compatible with the lifestyle I want to live anymore. It doesnt jive with my faith, my career, my relationship goals, etc. I know I could stay on HRT and not necessarily have any of those problems, but then I'd have to also stay on HCG, would have to do weekly injections, might be tempted to hide it from my significant other, might be more tempted to bump the dosage up just to show the guys in the gym that I can be more muscular than them if I juiced like they are doing LOL

Lack of REM sleep in-conjunction with an out of whack CNS is thought to be closely related to the absence of nocturnal erections. Endogenous sex hormones play a pivotal role with our CNS. Although it's not exclusively testosterone, estradiol or progesterone that promotes nocturnal penile tumescence (night time erections).

Being that you're no longer on a concoction of substances that created chemical warfare on different physiological aspects of our overall sense of well-being. Trying to realign these imbalances can be challenging.

I would try some phosphatidylserine (PS 100 by Jarrow is a good brand) and 5 grams of glycine prebed time. After a week or so you could mix your glycine with 500-800 mg NAC. If after you introduce some NAC and you find it's disrupting your sleep quality, cut out the NAC prebed and take it first thing in the morning. NAC being a precursor to glutathione, glutathione can have excitatory effects on some individuals. Which could bastardize sleep quality.
Interesting! Thanks Stewie. Just added the PS 100 and some glycine to my amazon cart.

What's your relative age? 20s, 40s, 60s? You're only a few months outside being on for a while so I wouldn't let it worry you too much unless it's causing serious relationship problems. The more fixated you become on it, can actually make matters worse. There were many times I thought I'd never come back. I always did. 3-6 months was all it took. Keep lifting heavy as you can, get some quality creatine, and let those hGH and LH pulses get their timing back in lockstep. It'll happen. Messing with it just seems to prolong the misery at times.

Honestly, for as much time as we spend with wood, you'd have no idea what a massively complex series of events there has to be in order to create a woody.
I will be 32 at the end of this month. I am lifting heavy, although my motivation when I am in the gym is null.

Give it time man. Let your body have its time to adjust. And why do you want night time erections? Having a hard on all night is a pain in the ass. For real.
From what I understand, night-time erections are a major way that our body maintains penile health. Its also nice just to know I've got *it* ready to go for whenever I might need it.
 

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I understand completely that you meant it as a joke. I was just trying to point out a cheaper alternative.

My personal experience to the OP is as follows: Like everything else in life, it depends. Your chance of getting normal erections back "naturally" depends on the duration and intensity of prior steroid use, and the amount of time, energy, and money that you are willing to devote to recovery.

I'm 53 now, and I've been using, and often abusing, testosterone and other steroids for the last 29 years of my life, except for the three years that I spent in Federal Prison for selling anabolic steroids and money laundering.

During those three years off testosterone and other steroids, I never had one good erection. Not ever. Not even once in three years.

When I got out of prison, and got back on TRT levels of testosterone, I immediately had erections again. And I have been on testosterone ever since, adding in other compounds from time to time.

It all depends on your personal situation and level of prior use. If you've been on gear for a long time, you may have to accept the reality, as many of us have, that your HPTA has been irreversibly damaged, you are now hypogonadal, and you will need to be on TRT for the rest of your life. Which is not such a bad thing at all, as many of us are in the same boat, and TRT is a lot more accepted today than it was in the past.

I understand your desire to let your system recover naturally, and I hope that it works out for you, and that your testosterone levels and erections return to normal.

But for me, three years of trying to recover naturally, and having no erections, was enough. I'll be on at least TRT for the rest of my life, and I can't imagine ever voluntarily going off testosterone again.

As always, your mileage may vary, and I wish you the best of luck in your recovery.
I fucking agree. It is a complicated process to get an erection, but with out having testosterone your chance of naturally getting an erection is close to 0. I made the decision to go on and said I'll never come off. Come off for what? It's not the low dose test that kills you. Plenty of 70 and 80 year olds on low dose testosterone.
 

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Mine is hard all night long, every night. Makes pissing awkward as fuck but is awe inspiring to the misses
Just pee in the shower and rinse off that's what I do.the only bad thing I have to rinse it as soon as I'm done and that's the last thing I want to do because I want to fucking go back to bed lol.but if I don't in the morning the shower will stink like piss and that's gross plus the wife hate that shit
 

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I came off all gear about three months ago, after being on for almost two years. I ran hcg 2-3x per week throughout, and continued running it for 6 weeks after my last injection, then I ran 4 weeks of Clomid, along with tribulus, maca, and fenugreek. I'm still taking the trib, maca, and fenugreek.

Anyway, I used to have erections every night, but I have not had a single one since coming off. I'm wondering if you guys have any tips, recommendations, or insight.
Bro after being on for 2 years straight and then stopping cold turkey. You're hormones, cns and a few other things are in shock. Give it time and it will normalize. But don't expect the Bonners nightlife like before. Why not do trt for a bit then get off trt.if that's what you want to come off completely forever
 

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I have considered Cialis but I am concerned about creating a dependency.

From my understanding a low dose of viagra or cialis can raise serum testosterone levels. From a biological point of view there is no evidence that oral prescription ED treatments cause any dependency. They enable you to physically achieve and sustain an erection when stimulated as it increases the blood flow into the penis.

 

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Bro after being on for 2 years straight and then stopping cold turkey. You're hormones, cns and a few other things are in shock. Give it time and it will normalize. But don't expect the Bonners nightlife like before. Why not do trt for a bit then get off trt.if that's what you want to come off completely forever
You speak the truth!!!!!!!!!! We live in a chemical based society. Low dose test is not any different than any other medication you get from your doctor that comes from big pharma.
 

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You speak the truth!!!!!!!!!! We live in a chemical based society. Low dose test is not any different than any other medication you get from your doctor that comes from big pharma.
Funny you say that. Because that's what I tell people. I'm like man every one in this world is on some kind of meds.either blood pressure or diabetes or heart or depression or anxiety. So if I'm on trt so be it. I probably out live all those on the meds I mentioned just by being on trt 😊
 

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I have considered Cialis but I am concerned about creating a dependency.


Staying on just wasnt compatible with the lifestyle I want to live anymore. It doesnt jive with my faith, my career, my relationship goals, etc. I know I could stay on HRT and not necessarily have any of those problems, but then I'd have to also stay on HCG, would have to do weekly injections, might be tempted to hide it from my significant other, might be more tempted to bump the dosage up just to show the guys in the gym that I can be more muscular than them if I juiced like they are doing LOL


Interesting! Thanks Stewie. Just added the PS 100 and some glycine to my amazon cart.


I will be 32 at the end of this month. I am lifting heavy, although my motivation when I am in the gym is null.


From what I understand, night-time erections are a major way that our body maintains penile health. Its also nice just to know I've got *it* ready to go for whenever I might need it.
Way to go! Your on a good path. Being on the same boat as you currently with the same feelings as you..not to go off topic with a question..but have you noticed now that your off 100% of the juice..you actually have more energy (even though theres less motivation to lift heavy weights and less drive to pump iron hard) and have you noticed that your mind is more "at peace" and you feel calmer without those extremely high urge feelings to rub one out all of the time and those intense being on edge feelings?
Side note for you brother thats been working for me..you might want to shift more into running and power walking and hiking (if your location has trails). Being at the gym..seeing all of those enhanced bros lift those cartoonish weights..makes me tempted and puts me in a position where I have to remind myself that I have to stay strong on what I am trying to accomplish. I prefer for it to just be me..and the road and the trail and my running without peer pressure. I find that my endurance is through the roof without those calf pumps anymore and my heart feels "cleaner" and I can breathe better without palpitations a supposed to being on. I also find that the herb Ma Huang tremendously helps as a pre workout along with caffeine. The E. Sinicia one of course. Apparenty the chemical based pre workouts can mess with your nocturnal issues and that includes Primtatene. Apparently Ma Huang doesn't mess with erections but gives that boost.
 

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Way to go! Your on a good path. Being on the same boat as you currently with the same feelings as you..not to go off topic with a question..but have you noticed now that your off 100% of the juice..you actually have more energy (even though theres less motivation to lift heavy weights and less drive to pump iron hard) and have you noticed that your mind is more "at peace" and you feel calmer without those extremely high urge feelings to rub one out all of the time and those intense being on edge feelings?
Side note for you brother thats been working for me..you might want to shift more into running and power walking and hiking (if your location has trails). Being at the gym..seeing all of those enhanced bros lift those cartoonish weights..makes me tempted and puts me in a position where I have to remind myself that I have to stay strong on what I am trying to accomplish. I prefer for it to just be me..and the road and the trail and my running without peer pressure. I find that my endurance is through the roof without those calf pumps anymore and my heart feels "cleaner" and I can breathe better without palpitations a supposed to being on. I also find that the herb Ma Huang tremendously helps as a pre workout along with caffeine. The E. Sinicia one of course. Apparenty the chemical based pre workouts can mess with your nocturnal issues and that includes Primtatene. Apparently Ma Huang doesn't mess with erections but gives that boost.
Man that's awesome

I definitely don't feel like masterbating as often but idk for sure if I feel more calm except for in the gym

I wish we had trails here, or even a football stadium with bleachers that is open to the public. I used to love running those back in college.

I'm going to look into the Ma Huang because I don't use anything and don't like caffeine
 

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Way to go! Your on a good path. Being on the same boat as you currently with the same feelings as you..not to go off topic with a question..but have you noticed now that your off 100% of the juice..you actually have more energy (even though theres less motivation to lift heavy weights and less drive to pump iron hard) and have you noticed that your mind is more "at peace" and you feel calmer without those extremely high urge feelings to rub one out all of the time and those intense being on edge feelings?
Side note for you brother thats been working for me..you might want to shift more into running and power walking and hiking (if your location has trails). Being at the gym..seeing all of those enhanced bros lift those cartoonish weights..makes me tempted and puts me in a position where I have to remind myself that I have to stay strong on what I am trying to accomplish. I prefer for it to just be me..and the road and the trail and my running without peer pressure. I find that my endurance is through the roof without those calf pumps anymore and my heart feels "cleaner" and I can breathe better without palpitations a supposed to being on. I also find that the herb Ma Huang tremendously helps as a pre workout along with caffeine. The E. Sinicia one of course. Apparenty the chemical based pre workouts can mess with your nocturnal issues and that includes Primtatene. Apparently Ma Huang doesn't mess with erections but gives that boost.

No offense, but Ma Huang is the herb ephedra, of which one of the primary active ingredients are ephedrine alkaloids, just the same as is found in Primatene (ephedrine HCL) and Bronkaid (ephedrine sulfate). Ephedrine is a beta agonist and sympathomimetic compound that will keep your nervous system in a sympathetic state, rather than the parasympathetic state needed to relax and get an erection.

Ma Huang will mess with your erections just the same as regular ephedrine in the form of Primatene or Bronkaid tabs. In fact, Chinese monks used to take Ma Huang (ephedra) just to help them stay celibate.

If you don't believe me, take a lot of Ma Huang, or ephedrine, and then try to relax and get an erection. Not happening, as many guys here on the forum could tell you who have taken lots of ephedrine in the past.

I love ephedrine (or Ma Huang) to keep you alert and awake, as a pre-workout, and as a dieting drug, to suppress your appetite and promote thermogenesis, as those of us who have taken a lot of ECA (ephedrine/caffeine/aspirin) can tell you.

But Ma Huang or ephedrine definitely doesn't help most guys achieve an erection. In fact, too much ephedrine has kept many men from achieving an erection. Ephedrine dick is a real thing, as many a pre-contest bodybuilder knows all too well.




 

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Well you were on for 2yrs! The chances of full Hypothalamus Pituitary recovery get less and less the longer you stay on. I would get bloods to see where you are at but give it much much more time.
 

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No offense, but Ma Huang is the herb ephedra, of which one of the primary active ingredients are ephedrine alkaloids, just the same as is found in Primatene (ephedrine HCL) and Bronkaid (ephedrine sulfate). Ephedrine is a beta agonist and sympathomimetic compound that will keep your nervous system in a sympathetic state, rather than the parasympathetic state needed to relax and get an erection.

Ma Huang will mess with your erections just the same as regular ephedrine in the form of Primatene or Bronkaid tabs. In fact, Chinese monks used to take Ma Huang (ephedra) just to help them stay celibate.

If you don't believe me, take a lot of Ma Huang, or ephedrine, and then try to relax and get an erection. Not happening, as many guys here on the forum could tell you who have taken lots of ephedrine in the past.

I love ephedrine (or Ma Huang) to keep you alert and awake, as a pre-workout, and as a dieting drug, to suppress your appetite and promote thermogenesis, as those of us who have taken a lot of ECA (ephedrine/caffeine/aspirin) can tell you.

But Ma Huang or ephedrine definitely doesn't help most guys achieve an erection. In fact, too much ephedrine has kept many men from achieving an erection. Ephedrine dick is a real thing, as many a pre-contest bodybuilder knows all too well.




No offense taken. Your actually right. ephedrine itself is indeed a strong vasoconstrictor. But the herb Ephedra (Or Ma Huang as I called it) has much more than just ephedrine. It has incredible strong anti viral properties (In China..it's being studied as being extremely effective against covid-19)
also smashes the common cold virus:
basically..I could quote more and more..but this stuff is incredible.
and now the fun part. Ephedra, in it's natural whole form, has vasodilator properties as well from the plant volatile oils, tannins, and other alkaloidal constituents.
Now this may vary from person to person with results/side effects..etc..but for me..a teaspoon of Ephedra..twice a day and about 400mg of caffeine each dose does not mess with my erections at all. and I'm not on test or anything right now. Just HCG 700-1000 IU Monday and Fridays..thats it!
Now give me 37.5mg of primatene and ill kiss any nocturnal action bye bye for that night.
 

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Man that's awesome

I definitely don't feel like masterbating as often but idk for sure if I feel more calm except for in the gym

I wish we had trails here, or even a football stadium with bleachers that is open to the public. I used to love running those back in college.

I'm going to look into the Ma Huang because I don't use anything and don't like caffeine
Yeah..def look into that Ma Huang. Much better than caffeine. I can't guarantee you that it won't effect your nocturnal issues but it doesn't affect mine in any way and I almost always have them every night and I'm just on HCG. No viagra or challis or anything like that either. Maybe you might want to throw in some red Chinese ginseng powder into your ephedra tea and make your own kick ass caffeine and chemical free pre workout since your a natty now:)
 

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Yeah..def look into that Ma Huang. Much better than caffeine. I can't guarantee you that it won't effect your nocturnal issues but it doesn't affect mine in any way and I almost always have them every night and I'm just on HCG. No viagra or challis or anything like that either. Maybe you might want to throw in some red Chinese ginseng powder into your ephedra tea and make your own kick ass caffeine and chemical free pre workout since your a natty now:)

That's a HUGE difference from where he is now! You're not comparing apples to apples.
 

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