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Opinions on a good brand of Prop
Since prop made its way into my next cycle, I'd like to hear some opinions on good brands that don't cause huge amounts of pain/soreness (i.e. reasonable BA content). Heard Mexivet is good, any opinions? Thinking 100 or 150mg EOD.
thanks,
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Jammerzzx
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I've never tried the Mexivet stuff, but I would highly recommend IPs Prop/suspension combo. At 200mg/ml, it doesn't bother me any more than any other prop I've ever tried. Price wise, it can't be beat.
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Mexivet works great. No injection pain and great results. Never tried IP but if you can get the stuff from Korea you have a winner.
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Testolents....!!...GREAT
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Shit, Im gonna to the mexivet for sure. Descent concentration (75mg/ml) and a good value in a 50ml vial.
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drgoodbody
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Holly crap!
IP at 200 mg/ml (!) and it doesn't cause necrosis of tissue at the injection site with all the BA that it takes to dissolve a freakin' short ester/esterless test product at 200mg!!!! Are you sure you've still got live (not fried) nerves in there?
Mexivet sounds like a good deal - but is it clean and dosed right? I've heard such crap about TT, Brovel, Loeffler and other mex brands lately. And I know first hand that some of their oral products suck Also read that anybody (Help me here Mods/Pro's) that knows shit doesn't use Mexican gear (esp. injectibles) anymore. Many products don't contain what they say (e.g. no cyp ester in TT sust product), and others are just plain underdosed and dirty. Plus there seems to be considerable batch-to-batch or lot-to-lot inconsistency in certain products (i.e. manufacturers are trying to save a buck but not totally shit on their reps while doing it - some people get good stuff, some get shit and so we never can sort it out). Is Mexivet the exception to this? Only injectibles I've used to date are GAC & Schering.
All opinions welcome!
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Re: Opinions on a good brand of Prop
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Originally posted by drgoodbody
Since prop made its way into my next cycle, I'd like to hear some opinions on good brands that don't cause huge amounts of pain/soreness (i.e. reasonable BA content). Heard Mexivet is good, any opinions? Thinking 100 or 150mg EOD.
thanks,
DrG
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Testolents are good and cheap, but you have to mix them with something, because they hurt like hell.
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Mexivet prop is, to the best of my knowledge, correctly dosed. I'm on my second bottle and have no complaints about the quality. As far as the other mexican stuff goes, you hear that shit all of the time. It's nothing new. Brovel seems to be the dirtiest. I've had bottles of Brovel T200 that I had to filter because of floaties. Now I stick to tornel if I use T200. Other good mex products are Maxigan, Laurabolin, Denkall products, Jurox too. And Quality Vet looks like it will be a winner for now as well. PB
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drgoodbody
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Floaties ! YUCKKKKK!
PB - that's disgusting... how do you feel on that stuff?? Also, I thought Jurox was Aussie not Mex (I was thinking about using their suspension instead of some nasty mexican prop)
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Brovel test sucks, that was the last time I used it. Jurox is Aussie but available thru mexico. Their suspension is good stuff. PB
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rAJJIN
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Viromone..from England
If its clean ~n~ painfree you want Id say Viromone.
100Mg per 2ml Amp. Testolent are also good for the $
As far as the Mexican products go I think someone is pulling your leg.
I dont know any pros personally but I do have some Partners at the
National level, All use or have used mex.products
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tmroper
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Yep,
Viromone al the way!! Clean shootin. Never any pain.
Do as I say, Not as I do!!!
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*P's stuff is great. Also, how about Sicomed phenylprop - 100mg/ml. It's somewhat of a pain, being in 1ml amps, but it's made for humans!
rAJJIN - Hey bro, good to see made it over here!
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mexi-vet prop is NOT from mexico! It is a bootleg made right here in the good ole usa. I've used several bottles. Very satisfied.
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MEXIVET IS #1!
I have to agree Mexivet is the best prop on the market today and then i would say the korean test prop. from hanil corp. and then the sicomed test prop. amps! I've used them all even the brovel t-50 and t-100's and none of them compare to the sterility or the kick of the mexivet test prop. wyldeone.
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Originally posted by tmroper
Yep,
Viromone al the way!! Clean shootin. Never any pain.
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I've read where Viromone no longer makes prop and that there is a TON of fakes out there. Apparently the vials appear "real" but something about the packaging/insert (?!?!?) that's different.
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Can't go wrong with viramone
I am about to use it again ilove the stuff at the beginning of a cycle!!
peace
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Testolent
Shit , that stuff was ausome... I haven't seen anyone carry it domestic..... ANY TIPS WOULD BE GOOD..
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how bout test-phenyl prop
from sicomed, from romania i believe, cheap and kick like hell
take care
frk
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YEA thats what testolents are bros....sicmed phelyalprop(sp?).....GREAT...
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Testolents are good. and nicely dosed at 100mg.
Mexivet is probably the best buy as far as prop.
Calastreme is a good prop from Peru. It comes in 25ml /50mg vials.
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02-04-2002 06:16 PM
drgoodbody
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Superior 1 -
The Calastreme is VERY low dose at 25mg/ml... Seems like you'd be an oil bag if you were injecting say 150mg EOD (6 ml!!!).
I'm liking what I hear about Mexivet - gotta go get some I think.
I know this is a little OT, but I'm also considering the option of using Test Suspension vs. Test Prop... Any thoughts on this?
thanks,
DrG
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i do favor the test suspension but, being that it is getting very expensive and the difference in half lives is only a day or two go with what is cheapest. i have used the testolents and loved them. can not seem to find many mexivet products at the moment with the guys i use.
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supertest
supertest by AVP labs out of aussie is good, JD
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cant remember the spelling cause i havent used it since sero was around back in the day, but i loved the Viramone prop.
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ManoftheWorld
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I have to correct drgoodbody on his statement regrding mex products being shitty and how TT sust aka testenon` doesnt contain cyp. well your right it doesnt and isnt supposed to. But as far as other TT products like there 300mg Deca and 200mg EQ they are good shit, if I need a cheap test I could settle for tornel t200 but rather go for aratest, QualityVet is a new up comming Mex brand with great feedback, so you cant give mex gear the short end of the stick just cuz they are from mex, but getting back to the subject of prop. Mexivet although new has been geting great reviews especially when looking at the quality for the cost, basically comes down to a toss up between mexvet and testolents...... oh course I would go with the cheaper of the two since they are both great.....
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Manoftheworld...
two things:
(1) I have heard from a number of people that mexican products appear to have degraded in quality over the recent past. TT for example started out well, but now many of their products seem to be underdosed. There also appears to be a considerable amount of lot-to-lot variability. Thats not to say their products don't work - they will, but you've got to use enough to get the job done. For example, some dudes are taking 5-6 TT anadrol a day! WTF, the original Syntex stuff would have leveled a small horse at 5-6 a day! A well known and respected (and un-named) chemist ran 20 TT through HPLC and showed they are dosed at about 9-10mg per tab instead of 50mg. Hence guys are taking 5-6 to get ~50-60mg of oxymetholone. How this translates to TT's injectible products is anybodies guess, but it does make you think that they're trying to pull a fast one on the consumers. I personally haven't used mex injectibles because of all the mixed messages I hear on them. May give mexivet prop a go tho based on what I've read in this thread.
(2) TT sust not containing cyp - yup, you're right. By definition Sustanon is a 4 ester blend containing propionate, phenylpropionate, isocaproate,; and decanoate. Still, I'd be willing to bet that mexican sust products are a 3 ester blend of enanthate, undecanoate, and propionate as those are the primary powders shipping from Chinabases - the principle powder supplier to everybody in mexico.
Anyway, to each his own. If you're happy with your gear who the fuck am I to piss on your parade.
later,
DrG
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HA well your close on the Mex 3 ester blend, t400, is a prop/enanthate/cyp blend with 25mg/prop. 187mg enan, and 188 of cyp., totaling 400mg per ml, and the shit is actually dosed right and works great, realitively cheap too. you could possibly be right on the tabs though, the only tabs I have used from Mex where clomid and that was only once on me last cycle, every other tab has been from overseas origin.....
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I THINK MANOFWAR AND DRGOODBODY ARE BOTH RIGHT. i like the denkal products althought actually they are aussie products. i hear great things about qualityvet also. on the other hand, i am through with ttokkyo products. i just am not sure what the hell i am getting. makes it very hard to be exact in dosing. plus i have heard too much crap about underdosing by people that i respect. loeffler , brovel and tornel are always underdosed and underfilled. why bother? when you have a bottle that is really 8 cc instead of 10 cc and 50 to 60 milligrams less than on the label then you are really not getting a good deal no matter how cheap the product is. pay just a little more and get the real stuff. just my opinion.
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Does t100 even have Prop in it? I heard it was enthanate
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here is the scoop.
1. mex products rule if thats all you can get
2. mex products are crap if you can get euro/ausie
3. some mex products are great, and some suck, and all companies have shitty products for the most part in mex. example: ttokkyo deca is A+ testenon F+
drgoodbody
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Opinions on a good brand of Prop
Since prop made its way into my next cycle, I'd like to hear some opinions on good brands that don't cause huge amounts of pain/soreness (i.e. reasonable BA content). Heard Mexivet is good, any opinions? Thinking 100 or 150mg EOD.
thanks,
DrG
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Jammerzzx
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I've never tried the Mexivet stuff, but I would highly recommend IPs Prop/suspension combo. At 200mg/ml, it doesn't bother me any more than any other prop I've ever tried. Price wise, it can't be beat.
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Paul Bunyan
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Mexivet works great. No injection pain and great results. Never tried IP but if you can get the stuff from Korea you have a winner.
PB
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tabb
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Testolents....!!...GREAT
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MikeS
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Shit, Im gonna to the mexivet for sure. Descent concentration (75mg/ml) and a good value in a 50ml vial.
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drgoodbody
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Holly crap!
IP at 200 mg/ml (!) and it doesn't cause necrosis of tissue at the injection site with all the BA that it takes to dissolve a freakin' short ester/esterless test product at 200mg!!!! Are you sure you've still got live (not fried) nerves in there?
Mexivet sounds like a good deal - but is it clean and dosed right? I've heard such crap about TT, Brovel, Loeffler and other mex brands lately. And I know first hand that some of their oral products suck Also read that anybody (Help me here Mods/Pro's) that knows shit doesn't use Mexican gear (esp. injectibles) anymore. Many products don't contain what they say (e.g. no cyp ester in TT sust product), and others are just plain underdosed and dirty. Plus there seems to be considerable batch-to-batch or lot-to-lot inconsistency in certain products (i.e. manufacturers are trying to save a buck but not totally shit on their reps while doing it - some people get good stuff, some get shit and so we never can sort it out). Is Mexivet the exception to this? Only injectibles I've used to date are GAC & Schering.
All opinions welcome!
DrG
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Re: Opinions on a good brand of Prop
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Originally posted by drgoodbody
Since prop made its way into my next cycle, I'd like to hear some opinions on good brands that don't cause huge amounts of pain/soreness (i.e. reasonable BA content). Heard Mexivet is good, any opinions? Thinking 100 or 150mg EOD.
thanks,
DrG
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Testolents are good and cheap, but you have to mix them with something, because they hurt like hell.
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Paul Bunyan
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Mexivet prop is, to the best of my knowledge, correctly dosed. I'm on my second bottle and have no complaints about the quality. As far as the other mexican stuff goes, you hear that shit all of the time. It's nothing new. Brovel seems to be the dirtiest. I've had bottles of Brovel T200 that I had to filter because of floaties. Now I stick to tornel if I use T200. Other good mex products are Maxigan, Laurabolin, Denkall products, Jurox too. And Quality Vet looks like it will be a winner for now as well. PB
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drgoodbody
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Floaties ! YUCKKKKK!
PB - that's disgusting... how do you feel on that stuff?? Also, I thought Jurox was Aussie not Mex (I was thinking about using their suspension instead of some nasty mexican prop)
DrG
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Paul Bunyan
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Brovel test sucks, that was the last time I used it. Jurox is Aussie but available thru mexico. Their suspension is good stuff. PB
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rAJJIN
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Viromone..from England
If its clean ~n~ painfree you want Id say Viromone.
100Mg per 2ml Amp. Testolent are also good for the $
As far as the Mexican products go I think someone is pulling your leg.
I dont know any pros personally but I do have some Partners at the
National level, All use or have used mex.products
rAJJIN
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tmroper
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Yep,
Viromone al the way!! Clean shootin. Never any pain.
Do as I say, Not as I do!!!
Roper
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xcelbeyond
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*P's stuff is great. Also, how about Sicomed phenylprop - 100mg/ml. It's somewhat of a pain, being in 1ml amps, but it's made for humans!
rAJJIN - Hey bro, good to see made it over here!
xcelbeyond
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mexi-vet prop is NOT from mexico! It is a bootleg made right here in the good ole usa. I've used several bottles. Very satisfied.
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MEXIVET IS #1!
I have to agree Mexivet is the best prop on the market today and then i would say the korean test prop. from hanil corp. and then the sicomed test prop. amps! I've used them all even the brovel t-50 and t-100's and none of them compare to the sterility or the kick of the mexivet test prop. wyldeone.
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quote:
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Originally posted by tmroper
Yep,
Viromone al the way!! Clean shootin. Never any pain.
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I've read where Viromone no longer makes prop and that there is a TON of fakes out there. Apparently the vials appear "real" but something about the packaging/insert (?!?!?) that's different.
xcelbeyond
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Can't go wrong with viramone
I am about to use it again ilove the stuff at the beginning of a cycle!!
peace
Highlander
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Testolent
Shit , that stuff was ausome... I haven't seen anyone carry it domestic..... ANY TIPS WOULD BE GOOD..
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how bout test-phenyl prop
from sicomed, from romania i believe, cheap and kick like hell
take care
frk
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YEA thats what testolents are bros....sicmed phelyalprop(sp?).....GREAT...
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Testolents are good. and nicely dosed at 100mg.
Mexivet is probably the best buy as far as prop.
Calastreme is a good prop from Peru. It comes in 25ml /50mg vials.
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Superior 1 -
The Calastreme is VERY low dose at 25mg/ml... Seems like you'd be an oil bag if you were injecting say 150mg EOD (6 ml!!!).
I'm liking what I hear about Mexivet - gotta go get some I think.
I know this is a little OT, but I'm also considering the option of using Test Suspension vs. Test Prop... Any thoughts on this?
thanks,
DrG
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i do favor the test suspension but, being that it is getting very expensive and the difference in half lives is only a day or two go with what is cheapest. i have used the testolents and loved them. can not seem to find many mexivet products at the moment with the guys i use.
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supertest
supertest by AVP labs out of aussie is good, JD
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cant remember the spelling cause i havent used it since sero was around back in the day, but i loved the Viramone prop.
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ManoftheWorld
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I have to correct drgoodbody on his statement regrding mex products being shitty and how TT sust aka testenon` doesnt contain cyp. well your right it doesnt and isnt supposed to. But as far as other TT products like there 300mg Deca and 200mg EQ they are good shit, if I need a cheap test I could settle for tornel t200 but rather go for aratest, QualityVet is a new up comming Mex brand with great feedback, so you cant give mex gear the short end of the stick just cuz they are from mex, but getting back to the subject of prop. Mexivet although new has been geting great reviews especially when looking at the quality for the cost, basically comes down to a toss up between mexvet and testolents...... oh course I would go with the cheaper of the two since they are both great.....
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Manoftheworld...
two things:
(1) I have heard from a number of people that mexican products appear to have degraded in quality over the recent past. TT for example started out well, but now many of their products seem to be underdosed. There also appears to be a considerable amount of lot-to-lot variability. Thats not to say their products don't work - they will, but you've got to use enough to get the job done. For example, some dudes are taking 5-6 TT anadrol a day! WTF, the original Syntex stuff would have leveled a small horse at 5-6 a day! A well known and respected (and un-named) chemist ran 20 TT through HPLC and showed they are dosed at about 9-10mg per tab instead of 50mg. Hence guys are taking 5-6 to get ~50-60mg of oxymetholone. How this translates to TT's injectible products is anybodies guess, but it does make you think that they're trying to pull a fast one on the consumers. I personally haven't used mex injectibles because of all the mixed messages I hear on them. May give mexivet prop a go tho based on what I've read in this thread.
(2) TT sust not containing cyp - yup, you're right. By definition Sustanon is a 4 ester blend containing propionate, phenylpropionate, isocaproate,; and decanoate. Still, I'd be willing to bet that mexican sust products are a 3 ester blend of enanthate, undecanoate, and propionate as those are the primary powders shipping from Chinabases - the principle powder supplier to everybody in mexico.
Anyway, to each his own. If you're happy with your gear who the fuck am I to piss on your parade.
later,
DrG
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02-11-2002 10:22 PM
ManoftheWorld
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HA well your close on the Mex 3 ester blend, t400, is a prop/enanthate/cyp blend with 25mg/prop. 187mg enan, and 188 of cyp., totaling 400mg per ml, and the shit is actually dosed right and works great, realitively cheap too. you could possibly be right on the tabs though, the only tabs I have used from Mex where clomid and that was only once on me last cycle, every other tab has been from overseas origin.....
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02-12-2002 12:06 AM
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I THINK MANOFWAR AND DRGOODBODY ARE BOTH RIGHT. i like the denkal products althought actually they are aussie products. i hear great things about qualityvet also. on the other hand, i am through with ttokkyo products. i just am not sure what the hell i am getting. makes it very hard to be exact in dosing. plus i have heard too much crap about underdosing by people that i respect. loeffler , brovel and tornel are always underdosed and underfilled. why bother? when you have a bottle that is really 8 cc instead of 10 cc and 50 to 60 milligrams less than on the label then you are really not getting a good deal no matter how cheap the product is. pay just a little more and get the real stuff. just my opinion.
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02-12-2002 10:11 AM
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Does t100 even have Prop in it? I heard it was enthanate
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02-12-2002 11:27 AM
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here is the scoop.
1. mex products rule if thats all you can get
2. mex products are crap if you can get euro/ausie
3. some mex products are great, and some suck, and all companies have shitty products for the most part in mex. example: ttokkyo deca is A+ testenon F+
