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Post Cycle Therapy.
ironone1
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Post Cycle Therapy.
Hi Professional B.B. Bros. & Bras.,
I had originally planned to start clomid therapy after my last EQ injection, but decided to add some Test. for another 10 weeks. I was wondering how long after last Test. injection do you start clomid? I also have Nolvadex and Tribolin I'm gonna use post as well. When do you start Nolva? Thanks for all replies.
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01-27-2002 07:26 AM
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The Nolvadex should start right from the start.
The Clomid - depends on what test you are using. Could be 1 day to 3 weeks after the last test injection, according to how long until it is out of the system. Generally, with the longer estered tests, 1 week after the last injection.
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01-27-2002 07:32 AM
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Thanks Big A. I've been on sust. for the last five weeks @500mgs/wk. I'm gonna do 250/mg of sust. for the next 9 weeks and 500 mg/ wk of Cyp. for the next 10 weeks. Win. Dep. for the next 8 weeks @50mg/day. I know it sounds screwed up but I wasn't seeing much for gains on 500mg/wk of Nile Sust. I decided to go with 750/wk. (500 cyp. and 250sust.) I will end with 500mg/wk of Cyp. Would you start clomid one week after? I was thinking at least 2 weeks after and starting Nolva. and Tribolin right away. What do you think?
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01-27-2002 07:55 AM
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Starting post-cycle clomid therapy depends on what @#%$ was used during the cycle. Different @#%$ have different half lifes and beginning clomid intake should be adjusted accordingly. If clomid is taken when androgen levels in our body are still high, it will be a waste. You need to wait for androgen levels to fall before implementing clomid therapy. However, if you wait too long you could possibly lose gains. Look at the list below to determine when you should start clomid therapy. List all the @#%$ used in your cycle and which ever one has the latest starting point then go with that. For example, if cycle consisted of dbol, sustanon and winstrol, use cessation of sustanon to determine when to begin clomid as it remains active for the longest period of time.
Anadrol/Anapolan: 8 - 12 hours after last administration
Deca: 3 weeks after last injection and clomid for 4 weeks
Dianabol: 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 17 – 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 10 – 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 3 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 8 – 12 hours after last administration
Use Clomid at 300mgs on first day of administration. Split this up 2 tabs (50mg ea.) 3 times a day. After first day, use 100mgs (one tab, 2 times a day) for 10 days and then followed by 50mgs for 10 days.
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xcel
That's the best info on Clomid I have seen! Thanks!
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01-27-2002 09:37 PM
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clomid
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I sugest to take more clomid man!
I always take 200mg forst 10 days and then 100mf gor next 10 days!
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01-28-2002 01:19 AM
ironone1
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Thanks for the good info. xcel. I printed that out to add to my info. bank. Very good post, thanks again. BTW did any of you guys ever get post cycle gyno.? Does it happen often?
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Post-cycle gyno
I've heard of it from HCG post-cycle use. Any comments from the vets here?
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Post cycle gyno happens when your test levels bounce back to higher than normal. That is why you are supposed to stay on anti-e's for at least a month after you finished everything else.
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01-28-2002 07:01 PM
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In addition, if using HCG too, throw in some Nolv 10-20mg ED while using that (keep the clomid going).
ironone1
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Post Cycle Therapy.
Hi Professional B.B. Bros. & Bras.,
I had originally planned to start clomid therapy after my last EQ injection, but decided to add some Test. for another 10 weeks. I was wondering how long after last Test. injection do you start clomid? I also have Nolvadex and Tribolin I'm gonna use post as well. When do you start Nolva? Thanks for all replies.
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The Nolvadex should start right from the start.
The Clomid - depends on what test you are using. Could be 1 day to 3 weeks after the last test injection, according to how long until it is out of the system. Generally, with the longer estered tests, 1 week after the last injection.
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ironone1
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Thanks Big A. I've been on sust. for the last five weeks @500mgs/wk. I'm gonna do 250/mg of sust. for the next 9 weeks and 500 mg/ wk of Cyp. for the next 10 weeks. Win. Dep. for the next 8 weeks @50mg/day. I know it sounds screwed up but I wasn't seeing much for gains on 500mg/wk of Nile Sust. I decided to go with 750/wk. (500 cyp. and 250sust.) I will end with 500mg/wk of Cyp. Would you start clomid one week after? I was thinking at least 2 weeks after and starting Nolva. and Tribolin right away. What do you think?
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01-27-2002 07:55 AM
xcelbeyond
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Starting post-cycle clomid therapy depends on what @#%$ was used during the cycle. Different @#%$ have different half lifes and beginning clomid intake should be adjusted accordingly. If clomid is taken when androgen levels in our body are still high, it will be a waste. You need to wait for androgen levels to fall before implementing clomid therapy. However, if you wait too long you could possibly lose gains. Look at the list below to determine when you should start clomid therapy. List all the @#%$ used in your cycle and which ever one has the latest starting point then go with that. For example, if cycle consisted of dbol, sustanon and winstrol, use cessation of sustanon to determine when to begin clomid as it remains active for the longest period of time.
Anadrol/Anapolan: 8 - 12 hours after last administration
Deca: 3 weeks after last injection and clomid for 4 weeks
Dianabol: 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 17 – 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 10 – 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 3 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 8 – 12 hours after last administration
Use Clomid at 300mgs on first day of administration. Split this up 2 tabs (50mg ea.) 3 times a day. After first day, use 100mgs (one tab, 2 times a day) for 10 days and then followed by 50mgs for 10 days.
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Big A
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xcel
That's the best info on Clomid I have seen! Thanks!
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01-27-2002 09:37 PM
forbb
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clomid
hello
I sugest to take more clomid man!
I always take 200mg forst 10 days and then 100mf gor next 10 days!
Forbb
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01-28-2002 01:19 AM
ironone1
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Thanks for the good info. xcel. I printed that out to add to my info. bank. Very good post, thanks again. BTW did any of you guys ever get post cycle gyno.? Does it happen often?
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xcelbeyond
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Post-cycle gyno
I've heard of it from HCG post-cycle use. Any comments from the vets here?
xcelbeyond
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Big A
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Post cycle gyno happens when your test levels bounce back to higher than normal. That is why you are supposed to stay on anti-e's for at least a month after you finished everything else.
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01-28-2002 07:01 PM
MikeS
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In addition, if using HCG too, throw in some Nolv 10-20mg ED while using that (keep the clomid going).
