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STEEDA69

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Good day all. I have been in a bit of a dilemma lately as I need to seek HGH elsewhere. I know Gen XXl and Marssel are reputable BUT I have NEVER seen the kits (120 iu's) That Marssel has listed on his site. Has anyone used them, and what are your thought's? Some say Jintropin is superior in it's ability to stay 'fresh' after reconstituting. I'm sure Marssel product is good, like the rest of his stuff, I just don't know anyone who's used his HGH and therefore have NO feedback on it. If you have and advice and / or feedback, it would be MOST appreciated!
Thanks
Jay :cool:
 
If he is a sponser...

It has to be good if it comes from one of the sponsers. Big A would not accept a bad buisness advertise. He is choosy when it comes to that kind of stuff. Big A can give you the low down on it all. Like I said he is a class act so any buisness venture on this board is good to go. I just prefer to be onatural. A little protein and creatine and im jacked hehehhehehe.... :)
 
Somatorm by El Ramoz is bootleg rHGH. That being said I have heard nothing but good things about it, w/ the exception that some experience an allergic reaction (red welts) at the injection site. I recently posted on Outlaw in response to this very question. I will copy and paste my response here.

I've heard very good things about this rHGH as well. I do see one problem which no one seems to have addressed, not the only problem though. There are 3 people that I know of shipping Somatorm domestically. Two of them point you to getpinz to purchase your bacteriostatic water. One of them is the "official U.S. distributor." The problem is, the only bacteriostatic water that getpinz carries is .9% BA. The company is pretty emphatic that you should not reconstitute w/ BA based bacteriostatic water. But their own official U.S. distributor advises you to purchase it. Its fairly obvious that this is a bootleg company, much like Eurotech was. That in and of itself is not necessarily a condemnation. But many people will not feel comfortable purchasing a high priced, highly fragile poly-peptide hormone from a bootleg company. The debate over this GH will continue without resolution as long as its available, just as it did with Eurotech's. Unlike Eurotech however, its presentation is very unprofessional. So much so that many would consider it unsatisfactory for resale.

Rex.

EDIT: Forgot my personal thoughts/opinions. This is nothing but rebottled bulk chinese rHGH. Just as Eurotech was. There is no "special formulation" of preservatives that is unique to this product, therefore it matters not whether its reconstituted w/ NaCl or BA. Merely a marketing ploy. They did not even spend enough money to get decent looking labels. Its highly unlikely that they contracted a company to produce rHGH w/ some special formulation of preservatives. You don't see boxes not because of customs, but because they don't exist. They don't even have a picture of them on their website. You don't see water from them, again, not because of customs, but because it does not exist. All this does not mean that the GH is not good. But, many people will have a problem buying from a "company" which is obviously being dishonest about more than a few things. Somatorm is almost assuredly rebottled right here in the states. They are an Argentinian company with nothing but english on their website. With one distributor listed, also in the U.S. I mean is it not obvious what's going on here people? Two of the guys who carry this are international. This is the only product they offer domestically. And its only on their domestic list. It did not make their international list. Tell me that's not strange given that it is supposedly coming from Argentina. I'll admit that I hatched this very scheme 2 years ago before I managed to get locked up on other charges. I even had a compounding pharmacist in place here in the states, ready to go. I even consulted with some very well known international sources who shall remain nameless. Trust me, it would have been less transparent than this though. This is the second time this has been done and probably not the last. If someone were to run a trace on their website, I will be willing to bet you that it is U.S. based, just as Eurotech's website was. I have no concrete proof of any of this. I would be very very surprised if I am wrong though. Their contact email addys are hushmail.com for God's sake. They could have at least spent the money getting el-ramoz.com email addys. But, they are counting on people being gullible and are a low budget operation. Their U.S. distributor says that the 60 IU vials are the common stock and that the smaller vials are rarely in. Its bottled in large 60 IU vials to make the handling of the lypholized bulk powder easier. I could go on and on. Like I always say, you can't trick a trickster.
 
Rex Feral said:
Like I always say, you can't trick a trickster.
Yes you can!

Rex Feral said:
This is nothing but rebottled bulk chinese rHGH.
Wrong country.

Rex Feral said:
Somatorm is almost assuredly rebottled right here in the states.
Nope. Wrong country again.

Rex Feral said:
They are an Argentinian company
Wrong again - first letter is right though.

Rex Feral said:
I will be willing to bet you that it is U.S. based
Nope.

You are wrong on most counts, although I agree with everything you say/mean to say.

The GH itself is good. It is the GH that I have been saying for years how well it works yet all the morons were arguing with me that it wasn't good, yet some of them now sing the praises of this one. :rolleyes:

Conclusion is that the GH itself is good. It doesn't denature until it is mixed. And they most definetely could have done a better packaging job and make the whole outfit seem more professional, but hey, people are still buying.
 
I too know what ...

I know the country it is made in also. Im keeping to myself. I have a horse sence about these things. You know what I mean BIg A.
 
I understand your sentiments somewhat. If a company doesn't put the time and effort into making there product look decent, then how much effort are they putting into the actual product. As consumers we often equate appearance with quality. That's the whole reason why labels and packaging are made to catch the eye and look good. It gives the consumer confidence in there purchase.
On the other hand look at Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer. Been into a Super Wal-mart lately? Generic shit everywhere, crappy store, and filled with low income people and/or low lifes (that includes the [people that worka nd shop there). But they continue to sell, world's number 1 retailer. They skip the fancy displays, high end shit at other stores and pass the savings on to the consumer. Somatorm may be the up and coming Wal-mart of GH. It does the job but it looks like shit.
As far as honesty, let's all be honest. We are talking about the purchase of illegal substances. With that in mind keep your fingers crossed with every purchase no matter how "legit" things appear.
 
Hey here's my $.02

Steeda69, go onto ALIN banner here and sign up on his shop you will then see a link or email addy for JINTROPIN and IGTROPIN IGF1-R3. Contact Chin who is the authorised contact for Jintropin and order directly from him. I have ordered several times from him and received all orders in under 5 day's and love the stuff. Guess what, I also own a factory Steeda mine is a 2000 #34 convertible speedster it has every suspension, brake motor option they offered in 2000 in fact mine was the most optioned that year. Blew the motor about a year ago and now the new one makes 497 RWHP. PM me if you need more info or wanna talk car's.
 
How was I tricked? The company is obviously bogus, that was my point. I'm sure you do understand that there a lot of people who don't realize this. I openly admitted I had no proof of my personal beliefs outside of the fact that the company was bogus. I should have known to come here when the questions about Somatorm came up Big A. The reason being is that the very same people who hyped Eurotech are also hyping El Ramoz and I remember how much you liked Eurotech as well. So you admit they are being dishonest about being a legit Argentinian pharm company. I for one am glad to hear that it is not simply rebottled Chinese bulk rHGH. Lends more credibility to the claims by many users I have spoke w/ that it is superior in quality to Jins. What I don't understand is why the transparent facade? And why was it so poorly put together? Also, why are guys like Marsell and Russian only selling this product U.S. domestic on their lists? And why is the only distributor listed on the "company's" website also U.S. based? Personally I could give a shit how its presented as long as whats in the bottle is of a good quality. I do need a rHGH for resale purposes however and its looks very unprofessional, so its useless to me except for myself and others like me. Eurotech on the other hand was very useful to me in this regard. Someone addressed the issue of honesty and the fact that we are engaging in inherently dishonest practices. True of course. I didn't say it bothered me. I said that some would simply not be comfortable purchashing an expensive, fragile, polypeptide hormone from a bogus company. When dealing w/ Jino we don't have this issue. They are in fact a real company. That of course does not mean that problems are non existent when dealing in Jins though.

In any event I do believe this to be a high quality rHGH. I have put a couple of people on it here at Gold's Venice w/ nothing but very favorable results. At this point in time I would not hesitate to buy it and see no reason why anyone else should either. I just think we should be honest about what we are selling to people and let them decide from there. I can't imagine that anyone would have a problem with that.

Rex.
 
Rex Feral said:
The reason being is that the very same people who hyped Eurotech are also hyping El Ramoz and I remember how much you liked Eurotech as well.

Nope, you're wrong there. I have NEVER, EVER, NOT ONCE said anything about Eurotech anywhere as I have never used, never seen it, never had any involvement in it, so I NEVER said anything about it good or bad.
 
zephyr22 said:
I know the country it is made in also. Im keeping to myself. I have a horse sence about these things. You know what I mean BIg A.

Do you remember by any chance how all the idiots used to argue with me many years ago that the stuff wasn't good? Now they love it because it has a different label on it. :rolleyes:
 
Hey Rex.........

Here's all the countries that begin with the letter "A". Hope this helps.... ;)

Afghanistan
Albania
Algeria
Andorra
Angola
Antigua and Barbuda
Argentina
Armenia
Australia
Austria
Azerbaijan
 
Big A said:
Do you remember by any chance how all the idiots used to argue with me many years ago that the stuff wasn't good? Now they love it because it has a different label on it. :rolleyes:

The Horsey stuff?
 
Trapasaurus said:
Here's all the countries that begin with the letter "A". Hope this helps.... ;)

Afghanistan
Albania
Algeria
Andorra
Angola
Antigua and Barbuda
Argentina
Armenia
Australia
Austria
Azerbaijan

LOL. :rolleyes: Thanks bro. Maybe its Azerbaijan huh? :D

Sorry Big A, checked my old pms, that was Ry. Its been a few years. What great irony that would be if this is indeed Bresagen's/CSL's equine somatotropin.

Whatever happened to Ry Roid anyway?

Rex.
 

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