Possably Old, I doubt there fake.
Id bet money there real if they came from anyone you seen here.
Differant owners of that company name now.
As someone else said now the majority (probably all) of what we see here is coming out of the Newer version of QV..... company Now out of China, Not mexico..Obviously differant owners and producers as well.
Doesnt mean its fake though, I beleive If I heard right they Bought the company name and logo from the original owner after the geargrinder ordeal.
LOL, if they are in China, I seriously doubt they bought the name. Of course, China being what it is and the steriod business being what it is, a lot of guys (I am not casting any specific aspersions here) will say anything than can away with knowing that proof is hard to come by. If they did buy it, then I am sure all those Louis Vuitton bags in the mall in Beijing are completely authentic and licensed. And don't forget all those DVDs of Spiderman 3