Recomp Cycle Critique

[lakers4210]

Hey guys, looking to recomp.

5'6, 190lbs, 12% BF.

Weeks 1-8
250mg Test C
3000mg Primo
50mg Anavar
20mg Winstrol

This is my 4th cycle. I have never ran Primo nor Winstrol before. Dosages are low but effective.

Opinions?

 

[doug1]

the test dose seems low for 4th cycle and some of the other compounds are more of a precontest nature

 

[mike1107]

Hey guys, looking to recomp.

5'6, 190lbs, 12% BF.

Weeks 1-8
250mg Test C
3000mg Primo
50mg Anavar
20mg Winstrol

This is my 4th cycle. I have never ran Primo nor Winstrol before. Dosages are low but effective.

Opinions?

3000mg primo ?

 

[lakers4210]

the test dose seems low for 4th cycle and some of the other compounds are more of a precontest nature

I have been off gear for almost 3 years. 250mg is still 3-4x normal levels produced by the testes. I have used both 400mg and 500mg in my past cycles. From the way my body reacted I felt I needed to go lower than 400mg [too much].

3000mg primo ?

Sorry I meant 300mg

 

[doug1]

I have been off gear for almost 3 years. 250mg is still 3-4x normal levels produced by the testes. I have used both 400mg and 500mg in my past cycles. From the way my body reacted I felt I needed to go lower than 400mg [too much].



Sorry I meant 300mg

how did it react?

 

[lakers4210]

how did it react?

High BP, lots of hot flashes and red face, irritability

this is my body telling me I am taking too much. So this go around I am going with 300mg.

 

[DTOWNDANDY]

Hey guys, looking to recomp.

5'6, 190lbs, 12% BF.

Weeks 1-8
250mg Test C
3000mg Primo
50mg Anavar
20mg Winstrol

This is my 4th cycle. I have never ran Primo nor Winstrol before. Dosages are low but effective.

Opinions?

What are your goals???

Are you trying to cut?

 

[PsyT]

what was your sodium intake like when you got all those BP sides? I bet it was high right...? That will spike your BP when you're on a lot of testosterone...

 

[massmonster32]

You should up your test to 500mg. Also thats alot of primo hard to find legitimate primo now days. I dont trust many brands just like with anavar I dont trust many brands of anavar either. Good luck. MM

 

[lakers4210]

This is what I have reconstructed.

Weeks 1-16: 400mg Test Cyp
Weeks 1-16: 400mg Equipoise
Weeks 1-8: 50mg Tbol
Weeks 11-18: 80mg Anavar

Weeks 1-18: 250IU HCG 2x/wk
Weeks 19-20: 40mg Nolva
Weeks 21-22: 20mg Nolva

I am also considering adding a low dose AI throughout the cycle to keep estrogen within normal levels.

Thoughts?

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Regarding the lower dosed Testosterone Cypionate. This is definitely a debatable subject as most people are recommended 500mg for 10 weeks as a first cycle. So why would anyone use anything less?

Well, 500mg is actually quite a strong dosage for a first cycle. I think 300-400mg would actually be better suited. Why?

Well, the testes of a normal healthy male produces between 25mg and 75mg of testosterone per week!
100mg Test Cyp contains 70mg of active hormone,
300mg Test Cyp contains 210mg of active hormone, ~300% normal levels! (even as high as 400%!)
400mg Test Cyp contains 280mg of active hormone, ~400% normal levels! (even as high as 500%!)

Any of us would get great gains from 300-400% our natural levels of testosterone!

The fact is we want results and we want BIG RESULTS, FAST! So 500mg naturally became a suitable dose. For me, I have been off gear for 3 years. I am below my genetic max. So given 300mg of Test Cyp I am still going to make great gains with even less sides than would be present at 500mg (yes, not many sides at 500mg either). The best benefit is during our next cycle we wouldn't have to use 600mg of Testosterone, but instead we could use a lower dose. Follow me?

 

[doug1]

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.Any of us would get great gains from 300-400% our natural levels of testosterone!
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if only this were true for everyone. i know percentage wise it sounds enormous, but in real world muscle building its not considered a large dose. you should have a read at some of the threads here and you may come to a different conclusion. i forget what your exact goals were, but if gaining max muscle during the cycle is one, then it may be a bit low.

 

[lakers4210]

Oops, I meant to only write the HCG until week 17, this way it is fully out of my system by the time I start PCT.

 

[lakers4210]

I am about 90% sure this is what I am going to run:
Weeks 1-5: 30mg Dbol
Weeks 1-16: 400mg Test Cyp
Weeks 1-16: 500mg EQ
Weeks 7-18: 80mg Anavar

Weeks 1-17: 250iu HCG 2x/wk

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Possible Change (what do you think?):
Increase Equipoise to 600mg/wk.
Will I see a difference between 500 and 600mg/wk?
When do you start seeing increased anxiety and elevated blood pressure problems with EQ?

I Also Need Help Choosing an Anti-Estrogen (and dosage):
I'd like to keep my estrogen within normal range throughout the entire duration of my cycle. Arimidex is out of the picture due to decreasing IGF-1 levels. My two choices are Aromasin (Exemestane) and Letrozole (Femara) due to both increasing IGF-1 levels. Which would work better for keeping estrogen within NORMAL range [and not below normal], and at what dose? If you could also provide a study showing such dosage being effective for achieving this, then that would be a bonus!

Thank you!