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Tadalafil improves lean mass and endothelial function in nonobese men with mild ED

Does anyone else get crazy headaches from the stuff? I love how it makes me feel but I get a gnarly headache
I get sides from all of them even at very low doses. Mainly sinus congestion...and some flushing.

IMO....I like using 10 grams or so of L-Citrulline. Similar effects for me and no sides!

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My experience exactly. The problem is I have no idea when I can take two months off because that means I'd have to abstain from sex. I've abused it so much and I need at least 60mg just in case. Really dug myself in a hole here.

You need 60mg of cialis before sex??
 
I've been curious about the fall off of effects also...and what constitutes "low dose" - I've seen many say 5mg a day will help with bp and bph as well as a host of other health concerns in men. SO doing 10mg pre workout for the added pump effect...my thought is instead of 5mg x 7 days for a 35mg total then 10mg x 4 days pre workout is about the same (40mg).

I think once there is a generic (which soon would be GREAT) it will be one of the most prescribed drugs for men but with its efficacy and safety there isn't much reason for it to even be a script drug and not avail OTC in say a 5mg tab.
 
I've been curious about the fall off of effects also...and what constitutes "low dose" - I've seen many say 5mg a day will help with bp and bph as well as a host of other health concerns in men. SO doing 10mg pre workout for the added pump effect...my thought is instead of 5mg x 7 days for a 35mg total then 10mg x 4 days pre workout is about the same (40mg).

I think once there is a generic (which soon would be GREAT) it will be one of the most prescribed drugs for men but with its efficacy and safety there isn't much reason for it to even be a script drug and not avail OTC in say a 5mg tab.

No, 5mg won't do anything for BP. The doses for hypertension are 20-40mg. No reason to dose it multiple times a day, it's active for 36hrs. I take it once daily in the AM. I use 20mg tabs.

There is no tolerance and no 20-40mg isn't going to kill you by lowering your BP too low like some want you to believe. Soo much broscience is being spewed about cialis. If you need 60mg, guaranteed you have other issues. I've tried higher 40-60mg and the boners were painfully strong. 20mg does wonders.
 
No, 5mg won't do anything for BP. The doses for hypertension are 20-40mg. No reason to dose it multiple times a day, it's active for 36hrs. I take it once daily in the AM. I use 20mg tabs.

There is no tolerance and no 20-40mg isn't going to kill you by lowering your BP too low like some want you to believe. Soo much broscience is being spewed about cialis. If you need 60mg, guaranteed you have other issues. I've tried higher 40-60mg and the boners were painfully strong. 20mg does wonders.

I don't think I can do 20/d or I'd have indigestion and erections all the time...the 10/d works well but suppose I can do it every single day instead of before training only, if there is no issues with developing tolerance and it no longer working. When I take 20-30 at once YEAH it's amazing... can't imagine 40+!
 
Can’t believe no one else gets nasty headaches from this stuff. Is it perhaps cuz I tried UG liquid?
 
Yea I don't get sides from it so that's not an issue for me. If you get sides, you'll just have to find another compound to use. CM was mentioned as one. I tried it as well, seemed to do the job. I like cialis better though.
 
Can’t believe no one else gets nasty headaches from this stuff. Is it perhaps cuz I tried UG liquid?

I use 5-10mg daily of ugl Cialis with no headaches
 
Also, almost all generics that you get from overseas and the liquid forms are way the fuck underdosed. I know my exact symptoms based on the stuffy nose and flushing almost precisely to the exact milligram. I ordered a bottle of the liquid stuff that had 50, 50 mg doses. BULLSHIT! I literally had to take almost half of the bottle before I felt the effects that I do with 100 mg tablet of regular generic Viagra. I kept loading up the 1 mm dropper and waiting 5 to 10 minutes and feeling nothing, then doing another and another and another and another until finally I noticed a little bit of stuffy nose. Per my calculations there should be 2500 mg in the bottle I purchased, and there was probably about 300 to 500 milligrams in it. And I found all of those research places to Dose about the same.

Most of the stuff from India is dosed at about 40-50% so keep that in mind also when you're evaluating your tolerance level. If you're taking a 20 mg dose of Cialis daily and it's from India it's probably actually 10 mg
 
Maybe it was viagra though. I mean it’s posisble right?

Best way to tell is to see how long the effects last. Cialis lasts wayyyy longer. Personally never had a side from Cialis. Viagra I have though.
 
Also, almost all generics that you get from overseas and the liquid forms are way the fuck underdosed. I know my exact symptoms based on the stuffy nose and flushing almost precisely to the exact milligram. I ordered a bottle of the liquid stuff that had 50, 50 mg doses. BULLSHIT! I literally had to take almost half of the bottle before I felt the effects that I do with 100 mg tablet of regular generic Viagra. I kept loading up the 1 mm dropper and waiting 5 to 10 minutes and feeling nothing, then doing another and another and another and another until finally I noticed a little bit of stuffy nose. Per my calculations there should be 2500 mg in the bottle I purchased, and there was probably about 300 to 500 milligrams in it. And I found all of those research places to Dose about the same.

Most of the stuff from India is dosed at about 40-50% so keep that in mind also when you're evaluating your tolerance level. If you're taking a 20 mg dose of Cialis daily and it's from India it's probably actually 10 mg

I don't understand how you can state such a thing as a definite? Perhaps word it as the ones you have used were underdosed. I have probably used over 20 brands of tadalafil in my time. I have 20mg Indian generic tabs now and if I dose 20mg have erections through the day and well it's super strong.

I have used many liquid tadalafil products and most were good. I definitely wouldn't state "all of the research places dose it about the same" as in underdosing. One liquid product I used was completely fake and done nothing and some were ok but most were very strong. Obviously there are many under (and over) dosed products out there but I don't think it can be stated most are x underdosed from any given country. I suppose it's not dangerous if someone overdoses but I wouldn't want someone taking double after reading you post as it may not be needed.

Personally I have been using 20mg randomly but going to change it to eod whilst on this cycle. Blood pressure control is a prime reason for me using it so that explains the dose. In the past I have used anwhere from 5-25mg daily for long periods. I think 10mg daily or 20mg eod suits me well though. Everyone should start low and build up the dose to where they feel the good effects with minimal side effects. For those who get bad headaches even at lower doses just pick another PDE5 inhibitor as cialis is likely not suitable for you.
 
Effects of taking tadalafil 5 mg once daily on erectile function and total testosterone levels in patients with metabolic syndrome.
Ozcan L, et al. Andrologia. 2017.

Abstract

We aimed to evaluate the efficacy of tadalafil 5 mg once-daily treatment on testosterone levels in patients with erectile dysfunction (ED) accompanied by the metabolic syndrome. A total of 40 men with metabolic syndrome were evaluated for ED in this study. All the patients received 5 mg tadalafil once a day for 3 months. Erectile function was assessed using the five-item version of the International Index of Erectile Function (IIEF) questionnaire. Serum testosterone, follicle-stimulating hormone and luteinising hormone levels were also evaluated, and blood samples were taken between 08.00 and 10.00 in the fasting state. All participants have three or more criteria of metabolic syndrome. At the end of 3 months, mean testosterone values and IIEF scores showed an improvement from baseline values (from 3.6 ± 0.5 to 5.2 ± 0.3, from 11.3 ± 1.9 to 19 ± 0.8 respectively). After the treatment, serum LH levels were decreased (from 5.6 ± 0.6 to 4.6 ± 0.5). There was significantly difference in terms of baseline testosterone and luteinising hormone values and IIEF scores (p < .05). Based on our findings, we recommend tadalafil 5 mg once daily in those men with erectile dysfunction especially low testosterone levels accompanied by metabolic syndrome.
 
Is your special lady friend on antidepressants and not willing to love you long time? No suckee suckee? 20mg tadalifil just may help you out. 😃

Tadalafil reversal of sexual dysfunction caused by serotonin enhancing medications in women.
Ashton AK, et al. J Sex Marital Ther. 2006 Jan-Feb.

Abstract

Sexual dysfunction is a common side effect of many antidepressants, especially those that increase serotonin. Many strategies have been reported to assist patients in minimizing impairment, with variable degrees of success. One of the newer approaches is to augment with phosphodiesterase type-5 inhibitors. Our report using the most recently released agent in this class, tadalafil is the first demonstrating potential benefit in women. We report here of three women who derived benefit from using 20 mg of tadalafil before anticipated sexual activity to reverse medication-induced sexual dysfunction. Tadalafil utility was maintained over time and was well tolerated.
 
My experience exactly. The problem is I have no idea when I can take two months off because that means I'd have to abstain from sex. I've abused it so much and I need at least 60mg just in case. Really dug myself in a hole here.

Tell 'em. It ain't easy being an adonis.
 

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