Trying something other then test?

[Irishmen24]

So ive decided to try my first cutting cycle!
Before ive only ever used Test C/E and i went to 800mg a week...8 weeks no gyno and the last 4 weeks i used letro to control the moon face.

My PCT was
Week 1-clomid 50 nolva 40
Week 2-clomid 50 nolva 40
Week 3-clomid 25 nolva 20
By week 2 i felt fully recovered!

Im 20, 220lbs at about 14%f.

Im thinking 500mg test C per week for 12 weeks
and 225mg Tren A per week < mwf injections. for 8 weeks
Posibly add 50mg of winstrol a day.

I know im going to be using Adex .5mg a day.
And have nolva and clomid for PCT.

My diet will be clean and cardio will be 3x weekly 20 mins of sprints.

Do i need a prolactin control?
Or any other ancillaries?

 

[Johnny Smiles]

-i think doing both tren and winni is over kill unless competing.
-i don't think you would need any ancillaries at all if diet is right.
-i would not use tren. too harsh. maybe the winni instead. 6 weeks is PLENTY -on tren if you go that route. you might be VERY tired of the side effects by week 6.
-if you did 800mgs in the past of test i would do the same for longer and see how that goes. but i wouldn't plunge into 800mgs. start low and up dose to break plateaus. you might need less than you think to have the same resluts.
-JS

 

[DTOWNDANDY]

So ive decided to try my first cutting cycle!
Before ive only ever used Test C/E and i went to 800mg a week...8 weeks no gyno and the last 4 weeks i used letro to control the moon face.

My PCT was
Week 1-clomid 50 nolva 40
Week 2-clomid 50 nolva 40
Week 3-clomid 25 nolva 20
By week 2 i felt fully recovered!

Im 20, 220lbs at about 14%f.

Im thinking 500mg test C per week for 12 weeks
and 225mg Tren A per week < mwf injections. for 8 weeks
Posibly add 50mg of winstrol a day.

I know im going to be using Adex .5mg a day.
And have nolva and clomid for PCT.

My diet will be clean and cardio will be 3x weekly 20 mins of sprints.

Do i need a prolactin control?
Or any other ancillaries?

List all previous cycles. In detail. And is your diet in check?

20 and wanting to use Tren? Bad choice bro. Letro for moonface? I hope you were taking tiny amounts! 800mgs of Test for 8 weeks? Damn bro... Taking .5mg of adex everyday? You havent even been on this cycle, how do you know this? I would start at half that dosage on every cycle and work up from there.

A good cutter would be 100mg Test P EOD, and Anavar at 50mg ed. Both for 8 weeks. Save the tren and winny....

I really think you're trying to rush to many compounds into this equation. You've taken a long estered Test, so now take a short ester. You may not even hold any water bro! If you take my advice, depending on how your body reacts, you may not need any ancillaries on cycle and get ripped if diet is on par.
Var is a pretty safe oral and most get excellent results. May have to adjust dosages accordingly.

if you dont want to take my advice, thats fine your body, but yes get yourself some caber/prami/bromo because tren (acetate especially) is unforgiving.

 

[Irishmen24]

List all previous cycles. In detail. And is your diet in check?

20 and wanting to use Tren? Bad choice bro. Letro for moonface? I hope you were taking tiny amounts! 800mgs of Test for 8 weeks? Damn bro... Taking .5mg of adex everyday? You havent even been on this cycle, how do you know this? I would start at half that dosage on every cycle and work up from there.

A good cutter would be 100mg Test P EOD, and Anavar at 50mg ed. Both for 8 weeks. Save the tren and winny....

I really think you're trying to rush to many compounds into this equation. You've taken a long estered Test, so now take a short ester. You may not even hold any water bro! If you take my advice, depending on how your body reacts, you may not need any ancillaries on cycle and get ripped if diet is on par.
Var is a pretty safe oral and most get excellent results. May have to adjust dosages accordingly.

if you dont want to take my advice, thats fine your body, but yes get yourself some caber/prami/bromo because tren (acetate especially) is unforgiving.

I appreciate feedback like this! Straight to the point and not just some insult!

and i did 800mgs of test for 12 weeks actually.. and yeah my letro was 2.5mg a cc so i used 1/4cc 0.625mgs it was like EOD or E3d and i must say my recovery was amazing... there was never the feeling of estrogen overtaking test like in my previous PCTs.

I will take your advice and leave tren alone till im older...simply cause of the horror stories of never recovering.

 

[control]

IMO, the only steroid worth taking is test. Everything else is more expensive and has more side effects. I used to like tren, but then one day I thought "Why am I paying extra money for something that is worse for my body?". For less money you can run more test, have less sides, and get better results in the long run.

That's just my opinion of course, based on my personal experience.

P.S. Alot of times the other stuff is really just test anyway.

 

[big_guns]

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List all previous cycles. In detail. And is your diet in check?

20 and wanting to use Tren? Bad choice bro. Letro for moonface? I hope you were taking tiny amounts! 800mgs of Test for 8 weeks? Damn bro... Taking .5mg of adex everyday? You havent even been on this cycle, how do you know this? I would start at half that dosage on every cycle and work up from there.

A good cutter would be 100mg Test P EOD, and Anavar at 50mg ed. Both for 8 weeks. Save the tren and winny....

I really think you're trying to rush to many compounds into this equation. You've taken a long estered Test, so now take a short ester. You may not even hold any water bro! If you take my advice, depending on how your body reacts, you may not need any ancillaries on cycle and get ripped if diet is on par.
Var is a pretty safe oral and most get excellent results. May have to adjust dosages accordingly.

if you dont want to take my advice, thats fine your body, but yes get yourself some caber/prami/bromo because tren (acetate especially) is unforgiving.

i used tren hex when i was 16 with great result and was the hardest guy in my city it was crazy but now since i know about gear much more i allways think before what im going to use

 

[Johnny Smiles]

BRILLIANT POST

IMO, the only steroid worth taking is test. Everything else is more expensive and has more side effects. I used to like tren, but then one day I thought "Why am I paying extra money for something that is worse for my body?". For less money you can run more test, have less sides, and get better results in the long run.

That's just my opinion of course, based on my personal experience.

P.S. Alot of times the other stuff is really just test anyway.

it seems so elementary but this post is GOLD. EVERY WORD. -JS

 

[mrmarcus]

List all previous cycles. In detail. And is your diet in check?

20 and wanting to use Tren? Bad choice bro. Letro for moonface? I hope you were taking tiny amounts! 800mgs of Test for 8 weeks? Damn bro... Taking .5mg of adex everyday? You havent even been on this cycle, how do you know this? I would start at half that dosage on every cycle and work up from there.

A good cutter would be 100mg Test P EOD, and Anavar at 50mg ed. Both for 8 weeks. Save the tren and winny....

I really think you're trying to rush to many compounds into this equation. You've taken a long estered Test, so now take a short ester. You may not even hold any water bro! If you take my advice, depending on how your body reacts, you may not need any ancillaries on cycle and get ripped if diet is on par.
Var is a pretty safe oral and most get excellent results. May have to adjust dosages accordingly.

if you dont want to take my advice, thats fine your body, but yes get yourself some caber/prami/bromo because tren (acetate especially) is unforgiving.

major BUMP

 

[Dave_19]

I won't input much on change PM me if you need advice but I really do NOT like that PCT, it reminds me of something from 1980, its so old school. No offense.

So ive decided to try my first cutting cycle!
Before ive only ever used Test C/E and i went to 800mg a week...8 weeks no gyno and the last 4 weeks i used letro to control the moon face.

My PCT was
Week 1-clomid 50 nolva 40
Week 2-clomid 50 nolva 40
Week 3-clomid 25 nolva 20
By week 2 i felt fully recovered!

Im 20, 220lbs at about 14%f.

Im thinking 500mg test C per week for 12 weeks
and 225mg Tren A per week < mwf injections. for 8 weeks
Posibly add 50mg of winstrol a day.

I know im going to be using Adex .5mg a day.
And have nolva and clomid for PCT.

My diet will be clean and cardio will be 3x weekly 20 mins of sprints.

Do i need a prolactin control?
Or any other ancillaries?

 

[DTOWNDANDY]

I won't input much on change PM me if you need advice but I really do NOT like that PCT, it reminds me of something from 1980, its so old school. No offense.

Now you have me curious....Whats your PCT look like, you can PM me if you want.