Other than caffeine

[Blackdream]

I pinned a ml of the super shredder from amino asylum about 30 min pre workout with 600mg synthetine and had loadssss of energy all workout

What’s in it?

 

[gib68sg]

What’s in it?

L-carnitine, b12, b6, inosotol, methionine, and choline

 

[jstrong20]

Green or white Kratom best thing I've used to get going when extremely tired. It is addictive and should not be taken everyday. As another poster said you could rotate things to prevent addiction or tolerance. Dmaa is nice for me too. Diffrence t racetams and monafidil plus the variants can work. Obviously adderal will be the strongest but as warned can turn really bad for some. My go to is Kratom and caffeine or ec stack. Nicotine pouch can also give you a boost but obviously also addictive

 

[st114]

Nicotine..love Copenhagen peri-workout

Same, ever since my Army days I pretty much have a lip in 24/7. Copenhagen Wintergreen. Nothing better than post workout/run

 

[Siggy]

Sadly all the things that actually work will probably fuck you up more in the long term. Often finding a good balance and not overdoing certain "boosters" is the best approach. If you can rotate things in and use stuff 1-2 times weekly you can minimize potential issues but it's still likely to happen especially if you are rotating different uppers daily. I think your best bet for the first thing to try is modafinil and start the dose low and move up. If I use 200mg I feel weird/off but 50mg is a nice boost and if I combine that with a preworkout I am gtg for approx 6 hours. My best advice would be to completely change your diet (elimination diet) and get allergy tests done and make sure your gut is operating at 100%. Keep losing weight as well as that will only help and look at everything you are taking in (including supplements and drugs) carefully.

How would one go about checking gut health. My guts been feeling shitty for a while now.

 

[musclehngry]

I use the Life Extension brand of Rhodiola Rosea it’s pretty good

The brand 88 Herbs is good too, that is what I use right now.

 

[aimanabolic]

I have an Adderall script which helps a ton, Clen surprisingly helps a lot with energy too.

I drop Adderall when I'm on Clean and don't feel a drop of energy.

 

[AllOkJumpmaster]

semax + selank?

 

[fisther69]

Same, ever since my Army days I pretty much have a lip in 24/7. Copenhagen Wintergreen. Nothing better than post workout/run

Wintergreen?? Weren’t you a ranger?? I thought by law all army special folks were allowed to use was regular long cut??

I used Copenhagen natural..it’s extra long cut so you never had to spit the shit..my OD-A probably made copenhagens quarterly’s for them based on Copenhagen natural alone.

I recently quit nicotine (except for cigars on occasion) I had no trouble quitting..but some shit just isn’t as fun anymore..lifting and running are bullshit

 

[fisther69]

lol
Tried that a got sick as hell. No I didn’t swallow it

Get the 3mg nicotine pouches..epic as hell also

 

[st114]

Wintergreen?? Weren’t you a ranger?? I thought by law all army special folks were allowed to use was regular long cut??

I used Copenhagen natural..it’s extra long cut so you never had to spit the shit..my OD-A probably made copenhagens quarterly’s for them based on Copenhagen natural alone.

I recently quit nicotine (except for cigars on occasion) I had no trouble quitting..but some shit just isn’t as fun anymore..lifting and running are bullshit

Haha yep I was a Batt boy and at least in my Battalion everyone dipped Wintergreen. When I was a Private and my team leader asked for a dip I handed him some other flavor, and he said “wtf is this?” And frisbee’d it into the woodline

Copenhagen natural is good stuff though

I’ve quit a few times and never had any issues either, just recently started back up because why not?

 

[BLKGUY2006]

Get the 3mg nicotine pouches..epic as hell also

I don’t think I can handle the “epicness”

 

[totalrecomp]

have you had your cortisol levels checked? If its tanked, then that is adrenal fatigue, YES 100% REAL. With no cortisol you will be dragging ass all day. We had a patient that was taking prednisone for 3 years for general pain and inflammation. Her morning cortisol was like 4! She could barely get out of a chair, always napping. We got her adrenal support and 3 months later she was "dancing". I`m not sure of her definition of dancing but it was a 1000% improvement. When these idiots at mayo clinic tested her cortisol again and it was normal, they asked her, "what did you do"? Mayo clinic told her adrenal fatigue is a myth. LOL

"They" are too hung up on the fucking term, "adrenal fatigue" and refuse to look beyond that. I DO NOT believe the actual gland is "fatigued" it's semantics really. I 100% DO believe people can have something akin to "psuedo-Addison's" in which they do not have full-blown Addison's but sure seem to have 95% of the same symptoms and respond very well to replacement doses of cortisol. I personally will use 5mg prednisone when needed. What do I consider "needed" well crushing fatigue that responds ZERO to any amount of sleep. 8.5 hours? Woopdeedo, may as well have been 5 minute nap. I will wake more fatigued than when I finally fell asleep, yes I have sleep apnea and YES I wear the CPAP and it is corrected(respiratory therapist in a past life.) Joints that feel like someone swapped the synovial fluid for crushed glass, ZERO pump in gym despite "healthy" levels of androgens present, plentifu fluids/electrolytes and insulin. Combine this hell with the complete inability to deal with even the smallest amount of stress. This was every day about 3 years ago. Now it happens here and there and is 100% resolved with a replacement dose of cortisol. Anything that lowers cort., even ashwaghanda for more than a week, brings it back fullbore.

TLDR: stop calling it "adrenal fatigue" and start calling it psuedo-Addison's or Addison's-light. They don't call an underactive thyroid "thyroid fatigue" they don't call Type-1 diabetes "islets of Langerhans fatigue" they don't call hypogonadism "testes fatigue" you get the idea. Some of the holier than thou western medicine "gods" don't like terms they, the anointed ones, didn't come up with. Like I said semantics.

 

[Alzadosghost]

Adderall is an absolute revelation if taken in prescription doses.

But be prepared to feel like absolute dogshit if you abuse it heavily. I am talking deep, dark depression for a couple of weeks until your bodies chemistry rights itself.

Also, make sure its Teva generic version or Adderall name brand. Every other manufacturers version is FAR inferior.

Well no shit it’s meth…..just meth prescribed by a dr. Doctors prescribe a plethora of drugs that have no actual medical uses. I think adderol is one of them.

 

[Blackdream]

semax + selank?

What do these do?
I’ve heard of them but never looked into it

 

[AllOkJumpmaster]

What do these do?
I’ve heard of them but never looked into it

Have not used yet, but finally pulled the trigger and they have not arrived. Lots of positive feedback ranging from focus and cognition but also alleviating anxiety, depression, PTSD etc...

 

[TeaMan]

What are some things you take that make you clear headed and have energy?
Can be natural or not, just looking for options
I have chronic fatigue syndrome and I’m always tired
It sucks

Cpap xD

 

[st114]

Get the 3mg nicotine pouches..epic as hell also

Ah those are good too.
I take 3-5 of the 6mg pouches at a time

 

[Stickball]

Ephedrine. You can get it almost national chains by asking for Bronkaid at the pharmacy counter.

 

[fisther69]

Ah those are good too.
I take 3-5 of the 6mg pouches at a time

I was doing that when I went to my next unit..drinking from a fire hydrant and going 200mph just to keep up and stay relevant..during that short time I used more stimulants that my entire life combined