I am curious: Where are all of the responses?? Where are all of the guys that worship and envy Vander, their demigod?? Why isn't anyone chiming in?? There have only been a handful of posts since this shit went down and the only ones posting are the ones questioning my stats? LOL For the love of God who could possibly think that I have 23 inch arms or 35 inch legs? There is so little humor here that it makes me sick, sometimes. Lots of hate but not a lot of humor. As always, there are a few that I can depend on and I thank you for having my back. You know who you are.
I am also pissed that Vander edited his post like any coward would. You didn't do it out of respect for me, V, so don't even go there. You did it because it was going to let everyone see your fucked up side - you know, the one you hide from everyone 95% of the time.
I have received your emails and your PMs and I would ask you to stop contacting me. I have all of them and even though I thought I might post them up, I can't bring myself to do it. It was tempting, though, to show everyone just how fucked up you really are. Let me touch on a few things here and I will leave you alone - not because you deserve it but because your psyche can't handle me. Ironic that it was YOU who said that it was always ME that had the issue, huh? lol
First, I won't accept any apology for what you did. Had you come at me I would have gotten over it but you put me out there to be questioned as a father, a husband and a man of character. As if Mr. past stripper, no job, living off of the sale of his father's busines has any credibility judging me. Thank toopoo for selling you out when he gave me that information on you. That auto part business, if I remember correctly, was in Michigan. I have a good memory.
Second, it would be one thing if I had told you that this was my lifestyle or told ANYONE that this was my lifestyle but I did not. You simply twisted my words in a debate on this board months back when I stood up for some friends that I knew that are swingers and that what they do doesn't have any impact on their children. THAT was my statement and I bet you it would be damned near VIRBATIM if you went back and searched for the thread. It was in response to the Craig Titus thread and I was making the point that so many people here at PM are on drugs, and get them delivered to their fucking doorstep, don't like to be unfairly judged but yet these same people are so quick to judge swingers for being so bad. I said it was unfair to make that assumption and it is. It is the height of hypocrisy when a bunch of whiny twenty year olds bitch about being judged and yet are so quick to judge EVERYONE else so I was giving my opinion. You turn my statements into my being a bad father. WTF?
I was flattered that Lacey gave my interview so much attention and gave me so much room to talk about my family and personal stuff. I was hesitant at first because this is the internet but I decided it was important to me and I wanted to get that stuff out there so that I could show a side that isn't all about what kind of music I listen to while I train and the lame-assed schedule that I train and what day I train legs, etc.. After only one day of the interview being up, I was getting mad support and was flattered by all of the response with it ALL being positive. I had no idea that so many people would care enough to read it or care enough to respond. Leave it to you to remind me why I questioned having that information out there to begin with. The funny thing was that my wife was upset because you know what? SHE TOLD ME NOT TO DO IT BECAUSE IT WOULD OPEN ME UP TO THE HATERS. I felt like a fucking ass when I told her what had happened.
Next, let me say that you are not the victim here, my friend, so don't make it sound as if you had to defend yourself or some shit like that. There was nothing to defend here. You took a calculated and thought out shot at me and my family and you suck for it. I have not ever taken one shot at your family - only YOU. I have only questioned you when you corner and bully people and I question your opinions and smart assed, arrogant remarks to people. That is IT. I stand up for people that you shit on because I remember having to deal with guys like you when I first started out, too. Vander, you are that guy that kicks sand in the face of the small guy. Hell, I even have kept it light by constantly joking about things like running you over with my car and inviting you to lunch, openly apologizing for not being here enough to fuck with you, etc.. I have stated that I have more FUN with fucking with you than actually not liking you. Though you are hated by more than a few, I never hated you. I just enjoyed relegating your arrogant attitude back to where it belonged by keeping you in check.
You talk about "burying the hatchet" but the truth is, V, you buried it in my fucking back, already, so there is nothing else to do. Your apology is NOTED but not accepted. I will leave you alone if you leave other people alone and I am not talking about myself. I can handle you, bro, if you keep it between you and I.
To the rest of you that read this post and didn't say anything, I don't even know what to say. I DO know that I am not selling anyone on my having character. I will sleep well tonight. I have nothing to prove to anyone.
V, as far as I am concerned, I have said my piece and I feel much better now. If you can handle the post let me know if you still want to talk on the phone. If you feel that speaking with me would help us resolve our dispute and my disdain for you, I am big enough to talk it over with you with an open mind. You just make sure that this is what you want to do because I don't want to waste my time. I have wasted enough defending myself.
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