Was conditioning in the 90's better than todays?

[madg]

Insulin can destroy a physique if you try to feed the slin i stead of use according to your macros

Personally im not a fan but i belive is mostly has to do with genetics

Im like roman , every trainer i have talk to all say to me if i go on slin ill look like a pro and blow up

If you have low bf , fast metabolism , high activity and you know your drugs .. nothing put water on you

Water only inside muscle if you begin shredded

 

[Big A]

But isn't it all about doses? Did ifbb pro use 20-30iu back then? You write that a minimum of 6 IU was used, and how much was the maximum? The higher the dose, the greater the water retention. And what is important, large amounts of diuretics were used back then, which was mentioned here by a few people. Today, fortunately, this trend has decreased significantly.

I was using 30iu/day. I was simply copying what all the local competitors were doing.

 

[bbxtreme]

I was using 30iu/day. I was simply copying what all the local competitors were doing.

This was paired with Humalin R correct? Which removes the argument of insulin is the culprit of the difference in today’s guys.

Post in thread 'Growth principles for beginners'
https://www.professionalmuscle.com/...wth-principles-for-beginners.1158/post-929910

 

[Big A]

In reply to above. This was 1994. I was still 19yo. Yes, I was smooth, but since I came off a winning streak of multiple shows, I slacked off for this one. I was lucky that the competition was weak.
I remember being on about 8IU of HGH plus lots of gear (no tren though - we all considered it the big boy drug).

By 1996, I was using 30IU/day GH and 12IU Hum-R twice a day. By 1997, diets would only happen with DNP. At 400mg/day of crystal, not that weak shit powder that you see around now.

 

[Big A]

Which removes the argument of insulin is the culprit of the difference in today’s guys.

I still don't believe it is anything but laziness in the open bodybuilding. 212's and Classique all use just as many drugs. But they all have the death face and have the same conditioning as the 90's.

 

[thethinker48]

In reply to above. This was 1994. I was still 19yo. Yes, I was smooth, but since I came off a winning streak of multiple shows, I slacked off for this one. I was lucky that the competition was weak.
I remember being on about 8IU of HGH plus lots of gear (no tren though - we all considered it the big boy drug).

By 1996, I was using 30IU/day GH and 12IU Hum-R twice a day. By 1997, diets would only happen with DNP. At 400mg/day of crystal, not that weak shit powder that you see around now.

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Was this 30 ius of pharm grade GH?

 

[Big A]

Was this 30 ius of pharm grade GH?

Yes. Nothing else existed then.

 

[thethinker48]

Yes. Nothing else existed then.

Wow

That must have been a couple of mortgages worth every month. Especially in the 90s

 

[AllOkJumpmaster]

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[GreatGhandi51]

I've cued this to start where Justin Harris explains why guys in the 1990s weren't as lean as most believe and why guys today weigh more but aren't as big as guys in the 1990s - he says GH is the big differentiating factor.

He hits the nail on the head.

 

[pickapeck]

Better condition...look at the back poses and glutes and hamstring of them all

Milos! That Caucasoid was shreaded! Wish it was at higher resolution.

 

[GreatGhandi51]

I was using 30iu/day. I was simply copying what all the local competitors were doing.

Thin skin theoritically means what to you bro?

I watch alot of plastic surgeons and when they talk about nose surgery, they talk about thick skin being prelavent in say latinas whereas asian thin skin.

I dont think this is the same meaning in bodybuilding. Because everyone can theoritically achieve thin skin?

 

[Geardepot]

No contest.

Just look at the amount of death faces on stage then compared to now.

This right here!

G

 

[Big A]

Thin skin theoritically means what to you bro?

I watch alot of plastic surgeons and when they talk about nose surgery, they talk about thick skin being prelavent in say latinas whereas asian thin skin.

I dont think this is the same meaning in bodybuilding. Because everyone can theoritically achieve thin skin?

Big difference in what surgeons call thick/thin skin and bodybuilding. My urologist claimed that I have thick skin on my scrotum - I don't know what that means since I never compared with someone else, but it feels pretty thin to me.

If you are on stage and you claim that you have "thick" skin, you are simply still fat.

 

[dantes]

Big difference in what surgeons call thick/thin skin and bodybuilding. My urologist claimed that I have thick skin on my scrotum - I don't know what that means since I never compared with someone else, but it feels pretty thin to me.

If you are on stage and you claim that you have "thick" skin, you are simply still fat.

Lol maybe that thick scrotum skin is why you popped out two kids on heavy cycles. Keeps the balls nice and cozy

 

[alfresco]

Lol maybe that thick scrotum skin is why you popped out two kids on heavy cycles. Keeps the balls nice and cozy

Heat is not your testicles friend.

 

[dantes]

Heat is not your testicles friend.

I mean cozy like laying on a nice cushion lol doesn’t have to be hot

And believe me I know about the heat thing I iced my balls for 30 mins a day when I was working to get my wife pregnant

 

[Norg]

Lineup is insane, Levrone

 

[madg]

Lineup is insane, Levrone

When it matered to have a pro card ?^^

 

[BLKGUY2006]

Better condition...look at the back poses and glutes and hamstring of them all

Luki
You could do better than that bro. None of those guys were on. Milos maybe but he had ruined his arms. Flex 1993???