Well that's your opinion, but you said that you wouldn't watch it unless your girl friend was in it. But you do know that Jack one it 2 years ago so you were there, so you have been watching it. My q is how many local shows have you seen, cause it's actually not that bad. Why don't you do it? The guy that won it last year has his natural pro card, not saying much but it shows hard work. The kid that took second (TIM) is up and coming. But if Tim is the promotor instead of Hans, watch for a decline. He couldn't get more than 8 people for his powerlifting competition this past spring/summer. Good guy, but alot of hype. I will agree with you about the two retards though. Those 2 are the shadiest people I've ever seen. The cat that one it last year is from my town, not Kalamazoo and doesn't train there either.