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|---[\\\\]>--------- well rob, as you and i discussed last week, you know i took have aquired a gym back home so im in the hunt for equipment as well. i was looking for db's and fortunately, i have a good friend w/ a huge wharehouse full of equipment and dbs for me to use, so im going that route, but as i was searching i realized its stupid to buy new ones. there are so many ppl out there that get into the gym biz and realize they no nothing about the biz and need to sell their equpment so i was finding lots of good deals. you are right though, shipping/freight will kill ya, so taht is why i suggest renting a Ryder truck and just drving out to get what you want. it would be a lot cheaper. r u getting rid of all the body master stuff in that room? i never liked it. hammer strength has good cable machines now. all of the new golds in vegas have them now...real smooth.