Winnie & the Joints!!

[slimjones]

I'm not talking about a rock band here! I'm talking about my wrist friggin KILLIN me after only 3 days of the orals! Sweet....lookin' forward to the rest of the 4 weeks. Any ideas as to what i can take to offset this? Joint Juice?

 

[mrsoul]

glucosamine.

 

[inoverdrive]

glucosamine.

That will help. What else are you running with it?

 

[Force245]

glucosamine is crap....doesn't work. Years on Gluc and nothing but still achy joints. A good month or so on Cissus and bam, not sore anymore.

 

[mung]

There is a great article on this board outlining varying compounds and their effects on connective tissue. Going from memory here, but I remember winnie being the one of the tops for inhibiting the production and cross linking of connective tissue. My opinion, the only two options are, add deca or eq or drop the winnie.

Search for the article and get the specifics. hopefully someone can remember as I can't even remember a key word to help you. Try connective, tissue, cross link and go from there.

Good luck as sore joints suck!

 

[Fa Seeshus]

cissus. also igf-1 helps alot


i like to use havoc/epistane instead of winstrol. it will still harden you somewhat, but without the joint pain.

 

[Dahouse]

There is a great article on this board outlining varying compounds and their effects on connective tissue. Going from memory here, but I remember winnie being the one of the tops for inhibiting the production and cross linking of connective tissue. My opinion, the only two options are, add deca or eq or drop the winnie.

Search for the article and get the specifics. hopefully someone can remember as I can't even remember a key word to help you. Try connective, tissue, cross link and go from there.

Good luck as sore joints suck!

I think this is the post you are talking about.

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6990&highlight=tendons

 

[muscledoc1]

I think this is the post you are talking about.

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6990&highlight=tendons

THANKS!!!!-GREAT INFO.

 

[VanR__]

glucosamine is crap....doesn't work. Years on Gluc and nothing but still achy joints.

Same here.

 

[Ashop]

I'm not talking about a rock band here! I'm talking about my wrist friggin KILLIN me after only 3 days of the orals! Sweet....lookin' forward to the rest of the 4 weeks. Any ideas as to what i can take to offset this? Joint Juice?

Use some DECA. Stacks GREAT with WINSTROL.

 

[JETHRO TULL]

I like the way I look on it, but it kills my joints too.

I'm not talking about a rock band here! I'm talking about my wrist friggin KILLIN me after only 3 days of the orals! Sweet....lookin' forward to the rest of the 4 weeks. Any ideas as to what i can take to offset this? Joint Juice?

Really drys them out. I don't want that feeling again.

 

[wtw11171]

Sorry about the joints slim. Let me know if you find a remedy.

 

[slimjones]

I think this is the post you are talking about.

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6990&highlight=tendons

Great info indeed!! Thanks for taking the time and finding this....I'm seein' Deca being the way outta joint pain so i'll give that a go. It's good to see an article like this and get the "Know why" as to why it does what it does....Thanks again!b

 

[irish_sd]

Great info indeed!! Thanks for taking the time and finding this....I'm seein' Deca being the way outta joint pain so i'll give that a go. It's good to see an article like this and get the "Know why" as to why it does what it does....Thanks again!b

I'm on winny right now and my elbows are killing me! I am seeing skull crushers in my nightmares!

 

[rippedfreak123]

Great info indeed!! Thanks for taking the time and finding this....I'm seein' Deca being the way outta joint pain so i'll give that a go. It's good to see an article like this and get the "Know why" as to why it does what it does....Thanks again!b

that must be a little harsh on the testes though..ide defenitely throw some hcg in that bitch if you arent already

 

[slimjones]

that must be a little harsh on the testes though..ide defenitely throw some hcg in that bitch if you arent already

i'm running hcg throughout the cycle....along w/ a few other things....stayin' on the cutting side of things....that being the case though, can i run the deca at a lower dose since it's not really for gains so much as it is for the joints?

 

[mung]

Dahouse, thanks for finding that...exactly the one I was thinking!

slim, I have run deca as low as 100mg per week and it made all joint pain go away. Not sure what your mg/week usage is/was, but I had tremendous success with 100mg/week when I was doing 200-400mg/week of test, as I also was only looking for joint relief. So if you're using more, it may require more deca, not sure.

 

[rippedfreak123]

i'm running hcg throughout the cycle....along w/ a few other things....stayin' on the cutting side of things....that being the case though, can i run the deca at a lower dose since it's not really for gains so much as it is for the joints?

wat are you runnning it at now?? 300?

 

[slimjones]

wat are you runnning it at now?? 300?

250.....

 

[rippedfreak123]

250.....

yea id keep it at 150 to 200..being that your using it more for joints than hardness or gains you should be good with that amount.

throwing osme anavar in there wouldnt hurt also