The preworkout thread

[TheOtherOne55]

Blackmarket's STIM made me feel amazing. High price point though.

Been seeing a couple on social media i havent found too many reviews for

Mega Pre Black
Utopia
ANS Prophecy
Arez
Alpha Lion's Super Human

Anyone tried those?

I recently moved and was in love with Havok by American Metabolix locally at my shop. Now, cant find it and may just order it. Once again though through company site pretty pricey.

Right now i'm rotating between a couple flavors of Redcon1's Total War and Primeval Labs Mega Pre Black. The only difference between the Black and the regular version is some high dosed caffeine. Overall, an OK preworkout. Nothing spectacular. I prefer Total War OR 1 scoop Mega Pre + 1 scoop Redcon1's Big Noise (a pump only pre)

 

[Phidias]

Anyone tried PATHOGEN from Outbreak Nutrition yet?

 

[Ashop]

I've been going milder routes with pre workouts. This last time I picked up some it was Hi Tech Off The Chain. It has some BCAA's in it and its energy source is Guayusa Extract. The flavor is incredible actually, Southern Sweet Tea.

 

[Tren14]

MA PUMP IS PRETTY GOOD

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[Dens228]

https://thelabsupplements.com/product/pre-lab17/

This is Dante's new project..
I have two on the way.

I look forward to your review on it.

 

[1bigmofo]

Excelcior

i picked this up. ordered it from the UK. Read in a thread by Elvia. “i like how it made me feel.”. Guys always been right on point with suppliments. I did one scoop, which is rather small in 8oz of water. once in the gym...damn, i was off and running! not jittery just energetic, not high but euphoric. great pump and honestly, did not want to stop, but i did after 1.15 hours of chest, tri, calfs and abs. shorter rests, but still was able to go to failure on last set with chest and tri. it was night and day compared to the pre workout ive beem using. great find Elvia!!!

 

[jeroendebleser]

I never thought I'd say this but yesterday I used one that I found a bit too strong lol

It's the highest dosed pre-workout I've seen to date: 6 gr l-citrulline, 3 gr beta-alanine, 3,5 gr creatine monohydrate, 2 gr glycerol, 350 mg caffeine (I was used to one having 300 mg caffeine and the extra 50 mg really did me in), 2,5 gr taurine and 1 gr betaine and l-arginine each + some other stuff.

If you want strong, for those of you in Europe, I highly recommend this one :headbang:

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[jeroendebleser]

Anyone tried PATHOGEN from Outbreak Nutrition yet?

Also has 350 mg caffeine I see. Looks solid. Although I prefer one with glycerol already added in for less hassle.

 

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[Knight9]

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[Professional Muscle]

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[Anderson CE]

After seeing you guys rave about Excelsior I decided to try it. $66 shipped is pricey. Especially when I only get 15 servings. But dang, it is a good one. On my second tub now. Currently rotating it with Juggernaut Wild.

Really want to try that new one from the makers of Craze but looks like it has to be ordered from UK?

 

[Kaladryn]

I love John Meadows' Arc Reactor (now it's called Pre-Mium) but I couldn't get it for a few months, so while it was out I tried one called Pulse, these guys aren't playing, this is ingredient list per serving:

8g citrulline
4.8g b-alanine
2.5g betaine
2.2g ornithine
350mg caffeine
350mg theanine

I have to add lion's mane and creatine but I have lots of that around, I'll go back to Pre-Mium when I run out but this Pulse is pretty good stuff.

 

[Elvia1023]

Right now i'm rotating between a couple flavors of Redcon1's Total War and Primeval Labs Mega Pre Black. The only difference between the Black and the regular version is some high dosed caffeine. Overall, an OK preworkout. Nothing spectacular. I prefer Total War OR 1 scoop Mega Pre + 1 scoop Redcon1's Big Noise (a pump only pre)

That's how I found Total War. It's a solid product but nothing spectacular.

Anyone tried PATHOGEN from Outbreak Nutrition yet?

No but it looks really good.

i picked this up. ordered it from the UK. Read in a thread by Elvia. “i like how it made me feel.”. Guys always been right on point with suppliments. I did one scoop, which is rather small in 8oz of water. once in the gym...damn, i was off and running! not jittery just energetic, not high but euphoric. great pump and honestly, did not want to stop, but i did after 1.15 hours of chest, tri, calfs and abs. shorter rests, but still was able to go to failure on last set with chest and tri. it was night and day compared to the pre workout ive beem using. great find Elvia!!!

That's great to know. Everyone responds differently but pleased to read you like it so much.

After seeing you guys rave about Excelsior I decided to try it. $66 shipped is pricey. Especially when I only get 15 servings. But dang, it is a good one. On my second tub now. Currently rotating it with Juggernaut Wild.

Really want to try that new one from the makers of Craze but looks like it has to be ordered from UK?

I wouldn't bother. I need to try it again but I used 2 scoops of Craze and it's not very strong which by the sounds of things is what you are after. So you use 2 scoops of Excelsior? For me 2 scoops of Excelsior is probably 3 times the strength of Craze. If you haven't for awhile I would recommend you have a few weeks off any stimulants just to reset your sensitivity.

Craze sounded great but then started getting a lot of bad reviews. If guys like Excelsior and Re1gn then they will like it but it's definitely not worth the money. My mate doesn't really find any DMHA products that good. He said he took 2 scoops of Craze and didn't feel anything. Granted his sensitivity is fucked up but still you would expect more. Some people are plain weird though with their response. His mate tried 3 scoops of Re1gn and said he felt nothing. It's crazy how different everyone is and many take so many stimulants nothing has much of an effect. I will use it again 2moro so I can access it better but so far it's decent but nowhere as good as Excelsior.

 

[Elvia1023]

I have used Outlift Amped a few times recently. I use 1.25-1.5 scoops with great effect. It doesn't give that crazy feeling DHMA (or DMAA) can give but is still very good.

I also used 5150 last week and it's good but it doesn't seem to have the same effect on me now. It only has positives (no sickness or jitters etc) for me though so all in all is a great product.

Then I tried 2 scoops of Craze (label states 1-2 scoops) and it was surprisingly clean. I was thinking maybe 2 scoops would be too much but not at all. Very clean energy and good focus but nothing spectacular. Although I have only used it once so will use it over the next few days to gauge a better understanding of it.

Now on to Excelsior. I got it at the same time and tried Craze first but the next day opened Excelsior. This tub had a white label and not a silver one like before. It states 1-2 scoops but I remembered settling at 1.5 scoops. I later remembered that was my high dose and I done closer to 1 for a reason. Anyway so I take 1.5 scoops thinking nothing of it. But this hit me so hard. It made me feel a bit sick but also euphoric and energetic so I had a great training session. I only had 90 mins to train but I wanted to carry on and do more.

The problem was after training I was so wired and it's like my brain wouldn't shutdown. It had it's benefits as I was so productive and got alsorts of stuff done I had been meaning to do all week. I had to say to my gf just leave me because I can't even talk properly as my head was running at 100 miles per hour and I answered about 50 emails in record time, cooked food, cleaned all the kitchen and shaved my body etc It took about 4 hours for it to start lowering and after approx 6 hours I was dare I say normal So sure it was good but it had it's negatives. I was surprised it hit me so hard as I have done 1.5 scoops before and I had taken a strong pre workout the previous 3-4 days.

Tonight I dosed 1 scoop of Excelsior. Basically the same effects just obviously not on the same scale. Again it made me feel a bit ill in the gym but the positives outweighed the negatives. I didn't feel the crazy euphoria like I have in past though. Now I feel productive but not wired in a bad way. Tomorrow I will give 2 scoops of Craze another go before training legs.

 

[gungalunga]

The problem was after training I was so wired and it's like my brain wouldn't shutdown. It had it's benefits as I was so productive and got alsorts of stuff done I had been meaning to do all week. I had to say to my gf just leave me because I can't even talk properly as my head was running at 100 miles per hour and I answered about 50 emails in record time, cooked food, cleaned all the kitchen and shaved my body etc It took about 4 hours for it to start lowering and after approx 6 hours I was dare I say normal So sure it was good but it had it's negatives. I was surprised it hit me so hard as I have done 1.5 scoops before and I had taken a strong pre workout the previous 3-4 days.

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Sounds like excelsior's secret ingredient might be high grade cocaine....

 

[Phidias]

Sounds like excelsior's secret ingredient might be high grade cocaine....

You couldn't be more right...

In terms of preworkouts, nothing, absolutely NOTHING ever compared to EXCELSIOR to me, except maybe for the very first original ECA stack I used when I was 16 yo...

Will be running out of it in a couple days or so btw, and due to traveling overseas in a country where customs ban about everything , just thinking about how pathetic my workouts will be without it for the first few days makes me cringe... lol...

 

[gungalunga]

You couldn't be more right...

In terms of preworkouts, nothing, absolutely NOTHING ever compared to EXCELSIOR to me, except maybe for the very first original ECA stack I used when I was 16 yo...

Will be running out of it in a couple days or so btw, and due to traveling overseas in a country where customs ban about everything , just thinking about how pathetic my workouts will be without it for the first few days makes me cringe... lol...

Try dbol, cialis, and simple carbs......My favorite pre-workout......works for me every time.

 

[Phidias]

Try dbol, cialis, and simple carbs......My favorite pre-workout......works for me every time.

Wish it was so simple in my case...

 

[Ashop]

After seeing you guys rave about Excelsior I decided to try it. $66 shipped is pricey. Especially when I only get 15 servings. But dang, it is a good one. On my second tub now. Currently rotating it with Juggernaut Wild.

Really want to try that new one from the makers of Craze but looks like it has to be ordered from UK?

That is pricey for only 15 servings. Is there anything special worthy of the price in this concoction?